[ExI] it was the best times, it was the best of times

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Tue Oct 8 11:08:11 UTC 2013

On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 11:23:10AM +0100, Anders Sandberg wrote:

> Now, waste numbers are tracked in an objective way by various
> agencies since they have to deal with landfills, and this is where
> you would get not just samples but aggregated numbers for entire
> societies.

I'm not talking about bulk waste. I'm talking about salvageables
like http://chronopause.com/chronopause.com/index.php/2011/09/29/doing-the-time-warp/index.html

If you're aware of any statistics covering these, I would
be very interested to hear them.
> I do not have the time to delve deep into this, but looking at
> http://wwws3.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/figures/municipal-waste-generation-per-capita-in-western-europe-eu-15-new-member-states-eu-12-eu-countries-eu-27-and-total-in-europe-eu-27-turkey-croatia-norway-iceland-switzerland-7/image_xlarge
> and
> http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php/Municipal_waste_statistics
> suggests that municipal waste per capita remains fairly constant in
> the core EU - the variations we see are far smaller than anything
> that could be reliably observed on the ground. West Balkan shows a
> markedly rising trends as their living standard improves (there the
> freegans ought to be able to notice year-by-year changes). Maybe the
> composition of the waste is changing; I leave that for other data
> dumpster divers.

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