[ExI] BICEP2 and the Fermi paradox

Tomaz Kristan protokol2020 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 10 09:14:07 UTC 2014

> But is now the true year 2014, or a simulation of 2014 run in the year

Is this the true year 4,982,944 with the simulation of 2014, or just a
simulation of all that, run in the year 4,982,945?

I am not saying this (infinite) regression kills the probability of
ancestral simulation going on. It weakens it.

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:

> Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com> , 9/4/2014 8:56 PM:
> The reason, I am not in an ancestral simulation may be the following:
> Since our civilization is a very early one, nobody is making them (those
> simulations) - yet.
> It's the question, will anyone ever make them, but nobody is making them
> now.
> But is now the true year 2014, or a simulation of 2014 run in the year
> 4,982,944? (where it is being run in a M-brain server together with a
> billion others) If it is the latter there are indeed ancestor sims being
> done now (externally chronologically speaking). Our own (as observed by us)
> civilizational age doesn't give much information about the real
> civilizational age of the outside.
> The earliness part is also problematic. Presumably there will be more
> simulations of interesting eras, so the far past is probably going to be
> simulated less than exciting times like the run-up to the singularity. I
> think one can make a good argument that our era is more consistently
> exciting than all known past eras, so given what we know we look like a
> likely simulation candidate compared to 10th century Europe or Africa 1300
> BC. Maybe there are way more 400BC Athens than 21st century worlds, but
> that was a far smaller spatiotemporal domain than the current glorious,
> awful mess.
> Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford
> University
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