[ExI] Aliens are likely to be AI

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Sat Dec 20 13:53:30 UTC 2014


I wrote a short review with some quotes from Susan's NASA paper:
https://hacked.com/aliens-probably-superintelligent-robots/

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Will our cosmic cousins see us as nothing more than convenient
> biofuel, a la the Matrix?
>
> There is nothing of value as "biofuel". They could see us as a nuclear fuel
> or sub-nuclear fuel or as a source of matter or something. But NEVER as
> "biofuel".
>
> Matrix movies made a tremendous damage in our thinkings and communications.
> Wachowsky brothers are one of the biggest sources of confusion in the
> history.
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Dominant Life Form in the Cosmos Is Probably Superintelligent Robots
>> Written by Maddie Stone  December 19, 2014
>>
>>
>> <http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-dominant-life-form-in-the-cosmos-is-probably-superintelligent-robots>
>>
>> Quotes:
>> The reason for all this has to do, primarily, with timescales. For
>> starters, when it comes to alien intelligence, there's what Schneider
>> calls the "short window observation"--the notion that, by the time any
>> society learns to transmit radio signals, they're probably a hop-skip
>> away from upgrading their own biology. It's a twist on the belief
>> popularized by Ray Kurzweil that humanity's own post-biological future
>> is near at hand.
>>
>> "As soon as a civilization invents radio, they're within fifty years
>> of computers, then, probably, only another fifty to a hundred years
>> from inventing AI," Shostak said. "At that point, soft, squishy brains
>> become an outdated model."
>> --------
>>
>> Begging a final question: How might superintelligent aliens view us?
>> Will our cosmic cousins see us as nothing more than convenient
>> biofuel, a la the Matrix? Or do they study us quietly from afar,
>> abiding by a Star Trek-esque maxim of non-interference? Schneider
>> doubts either. In fact, she reckons superintelligent aliens couldn't
>> really care less about us.
>>
>> "If they were interested in us, we probably wouldn't be here," said
>> Schneider. "My gut feeling is their goals and incentives are so
>> different from ours, they're not going to want to contact us."
>> --------
>>
>> "I'd have to agree with Susan on them not being interested in us at
>> all," Shostak said. We're just too simplistic, too irrelevant. "You
>> don't spend a whole lot of time hanging out reading books with your
>> goldfish. On the other hand, you don't really want to kill the
>> goldfish, either."
>>
>> So, if we want to meet our galactic peers, it looks like we'll
>> probably have to keep seeking them out. That may take thousands or
>> millions of years, but in the meanwhile, perhaps we'll upgrade our own
>> intelligence enough to level the playing field.
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>>
>> BillK
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