[ExI] extropy-chat Digest, Vol 129, Issue 19

[Omar Rahman]

> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 02:19:57 -0400
> From: Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com>
> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Why socialism and environmentalism (and a lot more)
> 	will	be impossible
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> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Omar Rahman <rahmans at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> How about the environment? Unless this universe collapses there will
>> always be an environment. Environmentalism can't go away.
>> 
>> How about socialism? Unless there is only one entity, yourself, that you
>> are aware of there will always be some sort of society. Socialism can't go
>> away.
>> 
> 
> ### If you play with meaning of words you can reach arbitrary conclusions.
> 
> Rafal

In that part of that post I was, obviously, trying to state something simply, almost absurdly so as in 'reductio ad absurdum', and not trying to redefine terms.

Perhaps it would be better to say that: we will always have a relationship with our environment --> this environment is real and measurable --> we should base our policies on this environment --> our environment is shared with other actors --> there will be some sort of society --> this society should refrain from war and favour inclusiveness and cooperation --> avoiding war (whenever possible) and favouring cooperation will inevitably lead to socialism.

Regards,

Omar Rahman

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