[ExI] Be nice to leftists

Omar Rahman rahmans at me.com
Sat Jun 14 19:04:26 UTC 2014


> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 02:34:37 -0400
> From: Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ExI] Be nice to leftists
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> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:36 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> In theory, government and law tries to reduce corruption.
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> ### No Bill, government is what corrupts law. Monopoly of force is a crappy
> way of doing computation, crappy computation corrupts everything it
> touches, so government law is corrupt, compared to law produced privately.
> 
> Rafal

Um, 'law produced privately'? What kind of law is it if it is private to you? You wouldn't happen to want to actually ENFORCE those laws on others against their wills, would you? I guess then it would be your private force vs the private force of those you declare 'law breakers'. Sounds like the law of the jungle, might makes right etc.

Again though, circular reasoning. This is the 'goto' of discussion by the way. Here is how it works:

10	government is what corrupts law
20	monopoly of force is a crappy way of doing computation
30	crappy computation corrupts everything it touches
40	goto 10

You see? Your conclusion is not significantly different from your premiss. (We will leave aside how flawed your premiss is for now.) (We will also do our best to gloss over the fact that statements 20 and 30 are either also premisses or non sequiturs.)

Regards,

Omar Rahman

P.S.	I think I have posted to the list with Re: 'the digest name' for the subject for a couple previous posts. My apologies.


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