[ExI] we need socialism

Odell Huff odellhuff2 at gmail.com
Sat May 24 15:37:00 UTC 2014

Not only do we not need socialism--especially not to provide basic services
that would be much better provided through civil society
institutions--support net is a much better argument--but attempts to impose
socialism will always hurl the society down the Road the Serfdom--the more
the socialism, the faster the trip, as all empirical data show. Please read
Hayek's Road to Serfdom, and Use of Knowledge in Society, and the
Intellectuals & Socialism, as well as Mises' definitive explanation of how
socialism destroys prosperity and freedom with it--when you've refuted
their arguments, please repost this email and explain to us how Hayek and
Mises got it wrong.

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Libertarians don't like authority, or at least question it severely if it
> is some sort of science thing.  But look at the needs of society:
> Somebody has to :
> take out trash
> fix roads
> put out fires
> catch bad guys
> etc.
> So what we do is pool out money through taxes and pay others to do this.
> OK, so this is kindergarten level, but wait.
> We have a right to hate communism based on its record in Russia, N Korea,
> Cuba and others.  But wait:  all of these are authoritarian-based.  Aside
> from some hippie communes, where has libertarian socialism been practiced?
> Many of us hated Carl Rogers and his feel-good, unconditional positive
> regard theory of child raising.  But - has it ever been really tried?
> Probably not, almost certainly not.  As soon as a kid left his house he
> would be treated much differently.
> So we need socialism, like police departments - its' just a question of
> how much we will have.  This group knows this, and knows that people on the
> right and people on the left will never ever agree on how much to take from
> individuals to benefit society.
> Or maybe 14 trillion dollars of debt is a good stopping point.  bill w
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