[ExI] The downsides of high IQ

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 16:24:30 UTC 2015

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:

> William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> , 16/4/2015 4:38 PM:
> Don't bet the house on any three point difference in IQ.  It is well
> within the range of error.  In fact, if retested, the percentage of people
> whose scores would change by more than three points is very high.  The
> standard error of measurement for the Weschler IQ test is about three.
> However, that is an average.  In fact, as the score departs more and more
> from 100 the error gets greater and greater.
> Three IQ points is trivial and is likely not to be the cause of anything
> other than test unreliability. Bill W
> You are missing the point. Individual IQ may not be that sharply defined,
> but that link talked about a population mean.
> The bigger problem with the claim that a 3% increase has a huge effect is
> simply that extrapolating linearly far from the current mean will not work.
> Obviously a 10 point increase will not reduce high school drop-outs to
> zero: the numbers just give a bit of evidence of the sensitivity. Except
> that untangling causation is *tough*: these are domains where feedbacks go
> both ways, especially when analysing "national IQs".
> But I think nearly all of the scientific literature supports that if
> something could give on average a few extra IQ points it would have a
> measurable positive effect. Not necessarily earth-shattering, but still
> significant. And the tail effects are fascinating: a small boost would
> increase the number of 140+ geniuses enormously, with high variance effects
> depending on what they do.
> Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford
> University
> ​I did miss the point.  Mea culpa.  Still, three points isn't going to
change much unless the standards don't change along with them.
Historically, if things (IQ or whatever) get better and better, standards
and expectations rise along with them, creating no real difference, except
in an absolute sense.​

​  If we added 100 points to the general population IQ​, the the lowest
standard would not be ability to read but to do equations in your head, or
something like.  I wonder what that society would be like.  I'd be
considered retarded.

> ​bill w​
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