[ExI] Theological arguments

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 12 21:42:32 UTC 2015


On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 2:44 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
> Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Theological arguments
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> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
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> ​>…What is so difficult for me to understand is this:  we teach young
> children about the tooth fairy, Santa, Easter bunny, and all sorts of
> things in various cultures that they grow out of (a meaningless phrase,
> that), coming to see fairly early that these are false. So why do they
> believe anything the parents and wider culture believe?  One would think
> that they are now prejudiced against the older generation's beliefs.
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> After all, they were lied to over and over.
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> BillK, the most religious parents do not teach their children about the
> Easter bunny, Santa or tooth fairy, none of it.  They don’t want the
> competition for their religion memes.
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> When I was teaching my son math, I was careful to not say you couldn’t
> take the square root of negative numbers.  I remember so well when I was
> introduced to imaginary numbers at age 13: …you know when we said you
> cannot take the square root of negative numbers, well that isn’t exactly
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> That was a minor crisis for me, for math was the one perfectly
> self-consistent objective and logical world.  It really bothered me to find
> out I was given a simplified incorrect view at any step anywhere.  Soooo… I
> introduced my son to imaginary and complex numbers when he was 7 years
> old.  We didn’t do much with them until recently (age 9), but when he did,
> they seemed perfectly natural.
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> The hardcore religion parents are right up front in telling their kids
> Santa is a commercial advertising device very loosely based on a historical
> figure, the Easter bunny is almost that.  Then they have all that
> credibility in the bank for their religion memes, and they need it all.
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> ​That's billW please.  And you just don't know Southern Baptists (the
> most extreme group - Methodists and Episcopalians will be very similar - I
> don't know what the speaking in tongues churches do; we have a lot of
> those).  The very idea of not celebrating Xmas in every way - well, just no
> words for that.  And Easter Bunny and all the rest - part of the Southern
> culture.  I take it you were raised in a very different environment.  bill w
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