[ExI] ok geezer, was: RE: Meta question again

Fri Aug 26 07:35:35 UTC 2016

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great project, I wonder what I could contribute?
smile, ilsa

Ilsa Bartlett
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:04 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> My extropian friends, this topic I wrote about earlier today is near and
> dear to my heart and I mean it; it’s far more important to me than the
> dreary unpleasant and generally unproductive political stuff.
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> If people will think with me on this, I will lay off the pointless and
> unproductive political droning, to the point that I stop posting about it.
> We could make a great software tool here, that could make now an even
> greater time to be alive than it already is.
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> I left my entire earlier post in here, below, so you don’t need to search
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> If you have never done it, I do urge you to visit a nursing home,
> especially a memory facility if one is nearby.  Note that there is little
> to no mental stimulation available to the patients there.  This accelerates
> their decline, for just as being in a hospital bed leads quickly to atrophy
> in the muscles, under-stimulation of the mind makes one dumber than a
> post.  The patient declines quickly after checking in.  We can do better.
> We owe it to our own elders to do better.  We can do better than we have
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> I argued previously that now is a great time to be young and healthy and
> the foreseeable future is even better; well sure spike.  But nearly every
> time is a great time to be young and healthy.  Young is fun!  My burden
> here is to create software tools to make this the best time ever to be old
> and declining.
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> Review what I said below, ignore the silliness and THINK!  HARD!  Then
> post here.  Let’s pool our best ideas, then let’s DO!  FAST!
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> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
> Behalf Of *spike
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:54 AM
> *To:* 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Subject:* [ExI] ok geezer, was: RE: Meta question again
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> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
> <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org>] *On Behalf Of *spike
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> *>*…Oh what a time to be alive, oh my, oh freaking my, what a cool time
> to live is this…  Now tell me who here thinks this generation is not better
> off than their parents, waaaay better off, better even compared to their
> older siblings…spike
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> And another thing!  If I haven’t already beaten this topic to death, do
> indulge me, you young people and let your old Uncle spike focus on just
> that last sentence above and offer an idea.   Anyone here can take and run
> with it, do a startup, even become rich and famous, and it would please me
> if you do.  Say nice things about me online.  Or we can divide up: you be
> famous, I’ll be rich.
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> What happened in just the last few years?  WiFi hot spots!  You can now
> have the internet RIGHT THERE in your pocket!  And it isn’t even
> expensive!  And OK Google!  Now any geek can talk to a sexy woman anytime
> he wants!  She’s always there (in a metaphysical sense anyway) never turns
> away in revolted disgust.  (Hey, theres a game: say something that even the
> Google Girl is disgusted.)  The fact that she isn’t a physical person
> literally present is a good thing actually: first, it keeps us married guys
> from getting into trouble and second, she doesn’t need to look at us, which
> would perhaps result in that sexy computer-generated voice making such
> astute observations as: eeewwww.
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> Furthermore, it is even possible that the voice really isn’t as dazzling
> as she sounds.  Nah, that couldn’t be; she must be a knockout.
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> But I digress.  Nobody offered any fun OK Google game suggestions, doh.
> In any case, it gave me an idea.
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> In my life I have had to thrice deal with Alzheimers.  No not me, dammit.
> Not yet anyway.  I meant with family members with Alzheimers, who spent
> their last days in a nursing home, all three.  Plenty of us here have dealt
> with that, and if you haven’t, lucky you, damn lucky you.  Go to a nursing
> home, or even better a specialized memory care facility and get up to speed
> on that please.
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> One well-known characteristic of AD patients is that they repeat
> themselves, a lot.  One well-known characteristic of AD patients is that
> they repeat themselves, a lot.
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> If people are not up to speed on how to deal with it, they usually do
> exactly the wrong thing.  When the patient repeats a previous comment two
> minutes later, the non-afflicted interlocutor often expresses unpleasant
> surprise, annoyance or shock, or all of these.  This reaction is noted by
> the patient, creating instant negative feedback.  AD patients often think
> they have said something offensive, have no idea what it was, and shut
> down.  A sensitive patient is suddenly carrying the additional burden of
> having offended the interlocutor, and seem to be apologizing all the time.
> Not recalling they apologized, they do it again and again, when they didn’t
> do or say anything wrong to start with.  This becomes tedious in a hurry.
> Go to a nursing home, see for yourself please.
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> A week ago, I proposed the OK Google game, with funny or insightful
> comebacks to easily-foreseen inputs to OK Google, such as the lonely geek
> trying to get the Google Girl to talk dirty to him.  Correctly realizing
> that this free timewaster is so much easier and cheaper than the usual way
> geeks get girls to talk dirty to them, they could entertain themselves
> indefinitely with such classics as Google Girl, will you kiss and carry on
> with me?  Response: Go ahead, it’s your phone.  That sorta, thing, we could
> have such fun writing the scripts.
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> Let’s take this same idea, an online voice-recognition icon graphics text
> to speech program, and make it tuned to stuff that AD patients might utter,
> for one well-known characteristic of AD patients is that they repeat
> themselves, a lot.  The right way to deal with that is to remember exactly
> what you said last time the patient made that comment, and respond the same
> way you did before.  You give the patient positive feedback, and perhaps it
> will store correctly the second time, perhaps not, or the third time or the
> tenth, but… if we were to automate that process, it might work a lot better
> in getting the AD patient unstuck in that loop.
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> Imagine we create an OK Geezer app, on the computer, with an attractive
> but not necessarily youthful icon, such as one resembling Jill Stein,
> perhaps even with Dr. Stein’s mellifluous and strangely provocative voice,
> but not her actual… like…  ideas.  We supply the responses, Jill supplies
> those good looks.  Guys from the National Geographic generation will love
> it!  We could even make one for the ladies, with an even more aged but
> pleasant enough appearance, such as Joe Biden.  But without Joe’s ideas.
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> Then we anticipate stuff that AD patients might say, load them into OK
> Geezer, and have a hell of a cool little game.  We wouldn’t even need to
> call it something as overt as OK Geezer.   Alternatives?
> PokemonGoToTheBathroom?  ThanksForTheMemories?
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> Anyone who wants to work together on a startup, here am I.  We have a
> clear enough problem statement:  One well-known characteristic of AD
> patients is that they repeat themselves, a lot.  We have icon-designers (my
> own ten yr old son can make good icons.)  We have speech recognition
> software.  We have all you young software hipsters.  We could do a startup
> without ever leaving our own homes.  I can write a few witty comebacks to
> those horny old geezers trying to schmooze up to Jill, some of you ladies
> can write some for Joe.  We can get two phones or two computers, run OK
> Geezer on itself and let Jill and Joe schmooze each other.  That should be
> rather hilarious, and perhaps oddly provocative.
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> Think about it.  Better idea: go visit a nursing home, stay inside that
> facility for at least one half hour, talk, look and listen.  If you have an
> elderly family member or friend already there, then spend at least one full
> dammit hour inside their facility.  Talk, look, listen.  Then come back,
> and think about it.  Then let’s do something, shall we?
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> Now is a great time to be young.  But it has always been fun to be young,
> ja?  We have the opportunity to make now a great time to be old too.
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