[ExI] Do digital computers feel was Re: Is the wave function real?

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Thu Dec 15 14:05:03 UTC 2016

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at gmail.com>

​> ​
> Let me ask you what you think I mean when I talk about a "redness
> quality"?

​Come on Brent, this isn't my ​first day at the rodeo! I am quite familiar
with the
​ idea and I know the difference between objective and subjective.​

​> ​
>  And would you also agree that an abstracted work like "red" does not have
> this quality?

​I would agree that red is a subjective experience and "red" is just an
ASCII sequence. ​

> ​> ​
> And would you agree that something in our brain has this quality when we
> experience it?

​What's with this "our" and "we" stuff? I have a subjective experience when
I experience red but I have no proof that you do, in fact I have no proof
that you or anybody else have any subjective experiences at all. ​

​If somebody believes that a digital computer ​behaving as if it is
conscious is insufficient evidence to conclude that it really is conscious
and if he wishes to be consistent in his beliefs then there is no
alternative but to embrace solipsism.

  John K Clark
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