[ExI] Nobel laureates tell Greenpeace to stop, opposing GMOs

[William Flynn Wallace]

It seems clear to me that the 02001 attacks were caused by the US's
interventions in the Middle East. You're sounding like one of those folks
who believes that the US government was totally isolationist until September
12th of that year.  dan

I think that this is correct.  They were saying 'just get out of our
countries and leave us alone'.  But I think we have no choice but to react,
or they would do something worse, and no doubt are planning it.  bill w

Wait! You're a libertarian? Then the taxes aren't owed; they're extorted.
No one owes them simply because the state says they are owed.  dan

I am a libertarian in part and a liberal in part (a conservative when it
comes to money).  I strongly doubt that all libertarians agree with what
you have written above.  We cannot allow people to just opt out of our
society and not contribute to it.  That's the deal in the USA.  How we can
have all the benefits of taxes without having taxes is a mystery to me.
John Donne  and bill w

I certainly agree that there have to be limits to the actions taken in
support of antiterrorism.  (generally I don't respond to way out extreme
examples which speak for themselves)

bill w


On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Jul 6, 2016, at 9:04 AM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> If the GOP were actually shrinking the federal government, that would be a
> great thing IMO. They are not. I'd rather them have less power to tax --
> not more. Yes, that would give less for your favorite programs here and
> it's not costless. But the federal government is by no means shrinking even
> in this area.  dan
>
> What' wrong with just trying to collect the taxes that are already owed?
> I am certainly not familiar with all the various things the gov does, but I
> am sure I could find areas that I'd shrink.  I could also find areas that
> need more money.  Just shrinking blindly seems like a very bad idea.  bill w
>
>
> Wait! You're a libertarian? Then the taxes aren't owed; they're extorted.
> No one owes them simply because the state says they are owed.
>
> Wouldn't another libertarian approach be much more reasonable here: stop
> stirring the pot for terrorism by getting involved in all kinds of foreign
> adventures and playing global cop?  dan
>
> I might have agreed to some extent with this, but not after 9-11.  They
> brought the fight to our yard and by golly I'd chase them to the ends of
> the earth.  Now Afghanistan, like Iraq, Viet Nam and maybe others - I could
> agree with you on those.  bill w
>
>
> It seems clear to me that the 02001 attacks were caused by the US's
> interventions in the Middle East. You're sounding like one of those folks
> who believes that the US government was totally isolationist until
> September 12th of that year.
>
> Who or what is not limited by money in this?   dan
>
> CR has less money than the feds.  Agreed?  Bill w
>
>
> Doesn't really answer my question.
>
> And, for the record, the FDA gets orders of magnitude more money than CR
> now. I know you want them to have ever more -- on the theory that they do
> fine work and never stand in the way of health and safety. Consider why
> some might dissent from your view here.
>
> You appear to want to just accept some level of local terrorism rather
> than beef up security, because the incidence is low, or maybe because no
> level of security can stop it all.
>
>
> My point was rather that there are more important fish to fry. We could
> all live isolation cells in a totalitarian state in the interest of
> stopping terrorism. Don't you agree that that would be a cure worse than
> the illness? Or is there no price to pay too high for allay these fears?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
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> http://mybook.to/Gurlitt
>
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