[ExI] MAKE THE LIST GREAT AGAIN

Wed Nov 16 06:48:14 UTC 2016

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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought of a new subject line for this thread that bears some kind
> of affinity to the discussion that spawned it...
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> The problem with the list is not too much politics, but too little of
> everything else.
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> When I joined in the nineties this list was my main source of food for
> thought: Extropy, space, nanotech, the then emerging internet, life
> extension, AI, uploading... And a lot of politics too...
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> Most of us are still still around and writing about the same things,
> only not here. The list has been mostly retired for years, apart from
> occasional bursts of activity. I am still here for emotional
> attachment, and I guess many others can say the same.
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> I write and share a lot of stuff, but these days posting to Facebook
> or Reddit is so much faster than posting to a mailing list, and
> reaches many more people. Mailing lists are still the most
> decentralized option, but alas not as good as contemporary centralized
> alternatives.
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> Should we try to restart the fire here? Or perhaps move to a Discourse
> (http://www.discourse.org/) board (like the Boing Boing forum)? Or
> some other platform? Or a subreddit? Note that Discourse and Reddit
> itself are mostly open source, someone would need to do the IT setup
> (and of course maintenance and admin) work.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:26 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
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>> From: extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf
>> Of Adrian Tymes
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>>>…Spike: we are now losing members because the political talk went past the
>>> election, and there is now no end in sight.
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>> I request an immediate, complete ban on discussion of the US political
>> system …
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>> No ifs, ands, or buts.  No excuses.  Stop it now, man.
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>> Thy wish be granted, my son.
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>> Please my fellow ExI-chat members, we see we have lost the guy I consider
>> the most valuable player, posts always filled with good stuff, insights,
>> calculations.  We know it has been traumatic, and we know we will pay for
>> what we have done, but it is done now.  Let it go, get back to the reason
>> this list is here: technology!  Science!  Transhumanism!  A positive outlook
>> on the future (if you can manage it (I can (can you?  (thought so
>> (good!)))))
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>> If anyone is tempted to squawk about some headline, I do urge we form a
>> subgroup on that specific topic or an ExI-politics group.  We have done that
>> in the past; in fact some of the really most interesting discussions I saw
>> over the years were to be found in a subgroup, such as the one we formed
>> when the transparency/openness debate was going on here and Natasha asked us
>> to take it outside.  We did.  Unfortunately a lot of interesting stuff, such
>> as Julian Assange’s comments, are not in the archives and I didn’t keep any
>> of it.  There were about a dozen guys in that, the usual suspects which
>> included me most of the time, Robert Bradbury who has died, I think Lee
>> Corbin was in there, died recently, Mike Lorrey has his own group, Eugen
>> Leitl who wrote some really interesting stuff, a big transparency opponent,
>> has gone to DarkNet last I heard.  There might be no one left from those
>> days, about 2000, damn.
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>> We had other specialized subgroups.  If someone wants to set up a Reddit, I
>> will join it, not as moderator.
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>> I request please, let us stop the US politics before we lose more highly
>> valued contributors.  I hope Anders will come back eventually or will check
>> in once something big happens.
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>> As friendly neighborhood omnipotent dictatorial ExI-chat moderator, I ask
>> please: no more.  Let it go.
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>> Thanks!
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>> spike
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