[ExI] crossdressing: was RE: Nobody can say we weren't warned

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 23 16:24:25 UTC 2016


OK now, view the two mainstream US parties as coalitions.  Those two gain
strength to the point where any other party is shut out  spike

I am having trouble with this one.  Europe can govern with coalitions - we
can't or don't.  They cooperate in some senses of that word, and we don't.
So in what sense are our two parties coalitions, as opposed to bitter
enemies?  bill w

On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 10:40 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

>
> >... On Behalf Of Legionara
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Nobody can say we weren't warned
>
> >...It's too bad Johnson's brain is fried from all the pot. How did we get
> from Paul to this? Legionara
>
>
> Crossdressing.
>
> Here's an interesting mathematical modeling puzzle for those so inclined.
> First, convince yourself you understand why any democracy will evolve into
> a
> two-party system by the competitive advantage of belonging to a mainstream
> party.  This tends to reduce the number of main parties until the number of
> parties is one.  At that time, the lone remaining party splits into two.
> This causes the magic number of parties to always tend toward two.
>
> In European countries we see coalitions of parties, and in some cases it
> evolves into three coalitions where the winner is whenever two of the three
> work together.  This is analogous in a sense to two major parties, if you
> want to think of it that way.
>
> OK now, view the two mainstream US parties as coalitions.  Those two gain
> strength to the point where any other party is shut out, leading to the
> well-known observation that third parties cannot win.
>
> Next step, visualize the mainstream parties realizing that to win they must
> present a unified front.  Their own primary process is destructive and
> expensive.  They need to save their powder for the main event.  Turns out
> there is a well-known way to do that.
>
> A party's pragmatists are those who realize the party's victory is more
> important than the candidate.  The pragmatist segment goes with the most
> likely front runner.
>
> Now imagine the party wants to control the pragmatist vote.  A category of
> special delegates are selected, ones that can be consulted, controlled,
> party loyalists.  Lock up these delegates, the Chosen One locks up the
> major
> contributors and the pragmatist vote.  With those three factors (selected
> delegates, pragmatists and donors) the primaries are over before they
> start.
> The party appears unified.  I call it pseudo-unified.
>
> Meanwhile, the hapless opponents not using that strategy are scrapping for
> donations, fighting each other, dividing themselves 17 ways.  The advantage
> to the pseudo-unified party is enormous.
>
> Even if a challenger emerges who has no chance at all and makes a
> surprising
> good showing by coming across even to those who disagree as at least a
> decent respectable person, the illusion of a unified front can be
> maintained.
>
> But wait, there's more.
>
> If the pseudo-unified party then cross-registers as voters from the other
> party, they can create chaos by selecting the other party's least
> acceptable
> candidate.  The other party's strong candidates are defeated early, since
> the other party is divided so many ways.  The other party elects someone
> who
> just isn't right, the pseudo-unified party wins in the general.
>
> This cross-dressing strategy has at least two easily-identifiable risks.
> The second biggest risk is that the non-unified party, with the help of
> crossdressers, selects an unacceptable candidate and wins anyway, leading
> to
> chaos.  The biggest risk is that the pseudo-unified party's pre-selected
> candidate wins, leading to chaos.
>
> Mathematical modeling experts, here ya go.  Legionara, that is how we got
> from Rand Paul to here.
>
> spike
>
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