[ExI] Quantum consciousness, quantum mysticism, and transhumanist engineering

[William Flynn Wallace]

A robot may be aware of its surroundings, demonstrated by the fact that it
can walk around, look for objects, pick them up and so on. But is it
conscious? What experiment would you do to find out?
Stathis Papaioannou

 The robot is no more and no less aware than a self-driving car.  I would
not call the robot aware.  What frustrates me is that some posters seem to
equate awareness and consciousness and some don't, like you.

The robot and the car are S-R creatures.  They receive stimuli and react to
them according to their programming. People are S-O-R, meaning that above
the stimuli that are being processed, there are meta functions checking the
S-R behaviors and seeing if that's really what they want to do, and
changing the program on the fly if not.  If robots have meta functions, and
I know just about nothing about robots and AI, then I am wrong, and the
robots and AI are functionally equivalent to a person.  John doesn't like
definitions, but I do, so what's the difference between awareness and
consciousness explicit in your question?

bill w

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 at 11:44 pm, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Stathis wrote: The studies try to find a correlation between awareness
>> or awareness and patterns in the brain. They do not demonstrate
>> consciousness.
>>
>> -----
>> Is there a difference between awareness and consciousness?  I would
>> equate them.  bill w
>>
>
> A robot may be aware of its surroundings, demonstrated by the fact that it
> can walk around, look for objects, pick them up and so on. But is it
> conscious? What experiment would you do to find out?
>
>> --
> Stathis Papaioannou
>
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