[ExI] Quantum consciousness, quantum mysticism, and transhumanist engineering

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com>
 wrote:

> Consciousness isn't the way information being processed feels.
>
> Information is the byproduct of consciousness processing itself.  Feels is
> the substrate.
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On 3 April 2017 at 11:48, Colin Hales <col.hales at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Consciousness isn't the way information being processed feels.
>>
>> Information is the byproduct of consciousness processing itself.  Feels
>> is the substrate.
>>
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> Well done Will,
>
> You get it. So few do.
>
> This is a symptom of 'the great map/territory' confusion that has
> possessed this area since the beginning of AI. It lies in the difference
> between 'nature as computation' and 'computation about nature', confused on
> a generational basis by entire science disciplines or at least whole
> cohorts of key participants in the area of AGI.
>
> Real AGI waits patiently for it to resolve and for the science to become a
> proper science again after 60 years.
>


It is not obvious that a computation about nature can be conscious, but
neither is it obvious that it cannot.


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou
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