[ExI] AI citizens

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 22 15:07:15 UTC 2017

*billk wrote:  * the problem
arises as to whether they have the right to demand the same civil
rights as humans.
First, which ones do we have?  The USA has a list; so does the UN.  The US
one is law; the UN one is hopeful.  In the USA a right not to testify
against oneself (the 5th amendment) exists for humans.  Do we really want
that to apply to our computer friends?

In fact, I'd say that the less said about rights, the better.  Don't want
to give them ideas above their station!  (I.E - give them an

Interesting parallel:  Terry Pratchett's golems - they were property before
Pratchett wrote them into owning themselves, and so had some rights.  But
doesn't this open the Pandora's box and let loose blackmail?  (the golems
were more powerful than anything)

All AIs should have a circuit overriding any other one that shuts it down
by human control.  But how to make it unhackable?  That is, by the AI
itself - or herself.  Or...

bill w


On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:42 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:

> Several thoughts....
> When AI reaches human-level intelligence (not necessarily genius-level
> as there are many humans below average intelligence) the problem
> arises as to whether they have the right to demand the same civil
> rights as humans.
> Do AIs need a robot body? Or is a static computer enough?
> The problem being that they could copy themselves to millions of
> computers and create millions of citizens.
> Would they be allowed to vote in elections?
> (Obviously any intelligent AI would vote for Trump),  ;)
> Would an AI be allowed to stand for election?
> Problem - would all the AI citizens automatically vote for the AI?
> When the AI reaches more-than-human intelligence it might be tempted
> to abolish elections because the AI could run things far better. But
> if it does this the AI would need to be prepared for some opposition
> from humans. A better method for superhuman AI might be to allow
> humans to continue to play with their elections and just route all the
> important decisions around them in the background.
> Could be interesting........
> BillK
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