[ExI] letter

[Edward Haigh]

Slavery is *not *comparable to college football. Sure, we could call it
exploitation - but certainly not slavery.

At the end of the day we are talking about a voluntary athletics club where
students are almost certainly taking part for the experience and enjoyment.

Is there any source where a student shares the same view that it's like
slavery?

I know this is anecdotal, but my partner rows 35 - 40 hours a week while
she trains for the Oxford-Cambridge boat race. This is voluntary and
doesn't even include the perks they receive like tuition - yet it raises a
considerably amount of money and media attention for the sponsors and
universities. If I suggested it was slavery she would laugh.

I feel like using this as a comparison belittles actual modern day slavery.

- Ed

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:55 PM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'd be in favor of removing obstacles to paying athletes but I hardly
> think it's comparable to slavery.
>
> -Dave
>
> Yes, they are volunteers, but the real slaves made big money for the
> plantation owners and received very little in return.  ESPN paid NCAA $470
> millions of dollars and the players get a scholarship?  That IS comparable
> to actual slaves.
>
> bill w
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:22 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1.6% of college football players make it to the pros.  So what?  So
>>> after perhaps making tens of millions of dollars for their schools winning
>>> conference titles, bowl games, the vast majority of the players graduate
>>> having gotten mostly nothing in return.
>>>
>>> It is time to pay the players.  Where else do we see employees
>>> contribute a great deal to the organization's bottom line and get a
>>> pittance in return?
>>>
>>> The idea that they are amateurs is ludicrous.  Even the Olympic
>>> organization got the right idea on that awhile back.  How much has Michael
>>> Phelps put in the bank?
>>>
>>> It is not a question of having the money. It's a question of sharing
>>> it.  The players and coaches earned it.  The coaches certainly get their
>>> share and their schools too.  The real money makers get next to nothing -
>>> tuition, books, a very few spending dollars.
>>>
>>> This blatant hypocrisy needs to stop.  This is slave labor, isn't it?
>>> Where else can they market their skills?  Nowhere.
>>>
>>> Outside of actual slavery, I can't think of another situation that is
>>> this unfair.  Absolutely unAmerican.
>>>
>>
>> The better players get athletic scholarships. That's substantial.
>> Athletics are voluntary: nobody is making anyone play football. Ask players
>> why they play. I think most just enjoy playing the game and the experience
>> of being a varsity athlete. I'd be in favor of removing obstacles to paying
>> athletes but I hardly think it's comparable to slavery.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
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