[ExI] Dark Energy and Causal Cells

[William Flynn Wallace]

 If you don't know for sure, then what do you know?  bill w

Good question. What do you know for sure?  stuart

It is possible that my statement was misinterpreted.  I was speaking as if
I were the common person who wants certainty.

For myself, I just don't use the concept of certainty.  As a military man
once said, every battle plan crumbles when the boots hit the ground.  Too
many variables in life to be sure of anything and enough experience to show
certainty is a fool's hope.

Yes, there are plenty of fools around - casinos aren't lacking for
customers, eh?  Like second marriages - the triumph of hope over
experience.

But - I have no idea why the concept of infinity is tied to other copies of
everyone.  Or fate.      Stuart ???

bill w

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Stuart LaForge <avant at sollegro.com> wrote:

> Bill W wrote:
>
> > The security of certainty does not belong in science -
> > agreed.  However, nonscientists seek it with a vengeance.  I'd argue that
> > it is the basis of most religions.  Neurotics seek it desperately so they
> > can quit worrying and dithering about decisions that are anything but
> > clear.  Being told about probability is the last thing a nonscientist
> wants
> > to hear.  If you don't know for sure, then what do you know?
>
> Good question. What do you know for sure? How certain are you of what you
> will have for dinner next thursday? That your flight will be on time? How
> sure are you of the date you learned to say daddy? How many hairs do you
> have on your head?
>
> If you cannot be sure of these simple things, then how can you have the
> cheek to seek certainty about the universe? Your brain could not keep
> track of its own atoms and you want certainty about life, death, and the
> Great Expanse?
>
> Well I have a certainty for you. For one thing, if you have faith the
> universe is infinite, you can be certain that whatever you have for dinner
> next thursday night, an infinite number of you, in other causal cells will
> have something else.
>
> > Stuart's explanation is fine but it's not what people want.  Certainty is
> > what they want and they can't get it from science, so they go elsewhere.
> > Of course they wind up delusional and irrational.
> > I guess that's the best we can hope for until evolution is kicked up a
> > notch with germline engineering.
>
> Well what people want is a matter of marketing. They can have certainty
> from science if they choose to truly believe the universe is infinite.
> It's a form of immortality to always be alive *somewhere*.
>
> Neurotics need not dither over minor decisions, if they truly believed in
> an infinite universe, they could rest assured that whatever they chose,
> they were destined to choose all along. And an infinite number of them in
> other causal cells chose differently.
>
> How much more certainty out of life could one ask?
>
> Stuart LaForge
>
>
>
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