[ExI] GOV _ TRUMP

Dylan Distasio interzone at gmail.com
Tue Feb 28 21:30:41 UTC 2017


Apologies on the obscure lingo, it's used so heavily on another list I
forgot my manners.  It's a term coined by the author of the below book to
talk about the interplay between actors who move back and forth between
government and private industry to enrich themselves.  She refers to them
as flexions.

https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Elite-Undermine-Democracy-Government/dp/0465022014

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Dylan Distasio <interzone at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Are you arguing that there is not a current flexionic globalist system
>> that benefits greatly from the status quo putting multinational
>> corporations and bureaucratic global blocs above the level of a nation
>> state?
>>
>
> Me? Certainly not. At least I don't think so. Not sure what "flexionic"
> means.
>
> The entertainment is the gravy, it has very little to do with why he was
>> elected.
>>
>
> Agreed.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, William Flynn Wallace <
>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> He did not get elected because of his views on anything.  He's not a
>>> statesman nor a politician.  What he is, is an entertainer.  He got by far
>>> the most press last fall, even in the NYT, and given that name recognition
>>> is highly important in elections, that may have helped him win.  Clinton
>>> had name recognition, of course, but much of it was negative and she was
>>> boring.  Can you think of any case in which Hillary has been entertaining?
>>>
>>> Now people seem to want entertainment from everywhere, even including
>>> outside their phones.  And we may be the world's best at providing
>>> entertainment. (Granted that much of it is of the hold-your-nose variety).
>>>
>>> That he doesn't know what he is doing, or at least  doesn't seem to care
>>> about tthe consequences of it, does not at all detract from his
>>> entertainment value.  Actually, the more outrageous he is, the more
>>> entertainment he provides and the more press he gets, and as we all know,
>>> negative press rarely hurts anyone. Ask the NYT.
>>>
>>> Now when that runs out, when people get tired of his act, we'll see if
>>> the Repubs will keep him.  He may surprise us yet and be not too bad,
>>> though that is not my best reckoning.
>>>
>>
>> Like most thinking Americans, I've been struggling to understand the
>> Trump phenomenon. I don't think it's got anything to do with entertainment
>> value: I think he's tapped into a large pool of frustrated and angry people
>> by echoing their concerns and saying he'll fix them. He's seen as a
>> successful businessman, for some reason, and his lack of government
>> experience is considered a plus, rather than a hindrance. To date he's
>> produced few details of his supposed plans, but his faithful supporters
>> believe in him and likely will attribute his inevitable failure to
>> Democrats and Washington insiders (fake media, et al) who benefit from the
>> current system.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>
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