[ExI] Do digital computers feel was Re: Is the wave function real?

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Mon Jan 2 04:33:43 UTC 2017



> On 2 Jan. 2017, at 2:30 pm, Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> So again, a human mind with duplicated and independently running pain circuitry - he clearly will not say he feels double the pain, because the rest of him does not know that there are two pain circuits running, and the output of the circuits is not summed. But the question for us who know he has two pain circuits - does he as a whole feel twice the pain and just not know it?
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>> I could claim that if you don't pray to God five times a day you will suffer terrible pain, but you won't know it. Would it worry you that I might be right? What possible difference to anyone would it make if I were right?
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> ### I know having 1x pain processing circuitry makes me feel 1x pain, running the same circuitry 2x makes me feel 2x pain, so yes, I am well justified in asking whether having 2x circuitry in parallel produces also 2x pain (but only 1x memory of pain).
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> I don't believe in god, so am not worried about any claims you make that depend on its existence.
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>> It's not a question of experiencing and then forgetting the pain, you are saying that it is possible to have the pain yet not notice it at all, which seems absurd.
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> ### By the construction of the thought experiment you proposed (circuits A and B running in parallel but converging at I/O) it is inevitable to have doubling of the pain processing neural activity *and* to never notice that doubling. Look back into what you proposed.

There's a doubling of the pain processing circuitry but no change in the experience - that is the whole point I was trying to make. A change in an experience that is impossible to notice is, by definition, not a change.
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