[ExI] Quantum consciousness, quantum mysticism, and transhumanist engineering

Ben bbenzai at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 24 20:57:15 UTC 2017

Ben <bbenzai at yahoo.com> wrote:

 > I await his response to your question with interest

OK, Brent has answered, and his answer is "No". So, agreeing that it 
doesn't matter what goes on inside a black box as long as its 
interactions remain the same, I'm completely at a loss to understand his 

"The theory I am promoting is predicting that there are elemental 

So please explain what these 'elemental qualities' that you keep 
insisting on, are! I have no idea what they can be!

And if you can't explain what they are, then please at least give some 
empirical evidence for their existence, because I can't see that there 
possibly can be such a thing as 'elemental feeling of being watched', or 
'elemental quality of the sound of a french horn', etc. Using 'red' as 
an example is all very well, but you must recognise that 'red' is just 
one of billions of experiences that a person can have.

Can you argue against the idea that 'red' is actually a high-level 
abstraction of more specific experiences such as the sight of a red ball 
a metre away, all the english telephone boxes I've ever seen, the sight 
of blood, etc.?

Ben Zaiboc

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