[ExI] Cryonics for uploaders discussion: Video (John Clark)

Angel Z. Lopez zoielsoy at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 21:41:31 UTC 2018


 The brain works on a frequency, when the frequency subsides it looses
recognition. You don’t have the technology to reset the exact frequency of
that individual.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:31 PM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Re Rose <rocket at earthlight.com> wrote:
>
> ​>​
>>  I imagine a scenario where a backup copy is uploaded to a host. Upon
>> reanimation it will be completely convinced its consciouness is as the
>> person who was uploaded. Why shouldn't it be?
>>
>
> For exactly precisely was the same reason Regina was convinced she was the
> same conscious person she was when she awoke this morning as she was when
> she went to bed last night.
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> IMHO, the only individual who will even be able to know if the copy is in
>> fact "you" will be you
>>
>
> If there is a backup copy that means "you" duplicating machines are
> available, and that means it would no longer be possible to point to
> something and say "that and only that is
> ​​
> you". Once nanotech powered "you" duplicating machines are invented the
> English language is going to need a major revision, particularly in the way
> it uses personal pronouns.
>
>
>> ​>​
>>  a copy will not be able to tell.
>>
>
>
> Yes exactly, the copy could not tell the difference and neither could
> anybody else. If subjectively it make no difference and objectively it
> makes no difference then I have no choice but to conclude it just makes no
> difference.
>
> ​>​
>  Only your subjective, internal experience will allow you to be sure if it
> is you,
>>
> Yes, the only reason I am sure I am the same person i was yesterday is
> because I remember being John Clark yesterday.
>
>
> ​>​
>>  and that agent will not be able to convince anyone else (including
>> copies) of that.
>
>
> In the future if something looks and behave like John Clark other people
> will be convinced it is John Clark, no different than how things are right
> now.
>
> John K Clark​
>
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