[ExI] Cryonics for uploaders discussion: Video (John Clark)

[William Flynn Wallace]

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Angel Z. Lopez <zoielsoy at gmail.com> wrote:

>  The brain works on a frequency, when the frequency subsides it looses
> recognition. You don’t have the technology to reset the exact frequency of
> that individual.
>
> ​It is my understanding that frequency depends on neuron firing​ and that
>> will vary depending on where you record from the electrodes, right?  One
>> part of the brain, say the medulla, is doing one thing, and another, say,
>> the auditory cortex, is doing another.  So I don't think there can be one
>> frequency, much less one that is constant.
>>
>
​bill w​

>
>> For exactly precisely was the same reason Regina was convinced she was
>> the same conscious person she was when she awoke this morning as she was
>> when she went to bed last night.
>>
>>
>>> ​> ​
>>> IMHO, the only individual who will even be able to know if the copy is
>>> in fact "you" will be you
>>>
>>
>> If there is a backup copy that means "you" duplicating machines are
>> available, and that means it would no longer be possible to point to
>> something and say "that and only that is
>> ​​
>> you". Once nanotech powered "you" duplicating machines are invented the
>> English language is going to need a major revision, particularly in the way
>> it uses personal pronouns.
>>
>>
>>> ​>​
>>>  a copy will not be able to tell.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes exactly, the copy could not tell the difference and neither could
>> anybody else. If subjectively it make no difference and objectively it
>> makes no difference then I have no choice but to conclude it just makes no
>> difference.
>>
>> ​>​
>>  Only your subjective, internal experience will allow you to be sure if
>> it is you,
>> ​
>>
>> Yes, the only reason I am sure I am the same person i was yesterday is
>> because I remember being John Clark yesterday.
>>
>>
>> ​>​
>>>  and that agent will not be able to convince anyone else (including
>>> copies) of that.
>>
>>
>> In the future if something looks and behave like John Clark other people
>> will be convinced it is John Clark, no different than how things are right
>> now.
>>
>> John K Clark​
>>
>>
>>
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