[ExI] Anders Sandberg

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at mac.com
Thu Jun 28 05:10:49 UTC 2018

The theory I have long considered most likely is that technological evolved species seldom survive the run up to Singularity.  Why?  Because they must overcome their evolved psychology and evolved limited intelligence quite rapidly in order to avoid a catastrophic failure to deal with ever accelerating change and ever more complex issues.    Their likely evolved psychology, if we assume non-exceptionalism relative to our own evolved psychology,  does not tend to the level of cooperation, trust, and understanding of true mutual benefit that are likely needed. 

Of course the other successful civs could have us in a box controlling what we do and do not perceive of their works while they wait to see if we are “keepers” or not.

> On Jun 24, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought of Anders as the most interesting person on the Extropy
> list.  Unfortunately, he left some times ago.  He still does
> interesting stuff, I noticed this today
> https://www.rt.com/news/430736-aliens-search-fermi-paradox/
> Eric Drexler is one of the co-authors.
> "The researchers assigned each of the equation’s parameters a range
> from the smallest to the largest values they could possibly have,
> based on current knowledge. This revealed that in a third of the
> cases, the galaxy would be absolutely devoid of intelligent life
> anywhere else but Earth. In other scenarios, however, there could be a
> large number of civilizations."
> If civilizations are common and we don't see or hear from any of them,
> that has dire implications for humanity's future.  But if they are
> really uncommon, then our future is unknown and without precedent.
> Which is a lot better than being doomed.
> Best wishes,
> Keith
> PS, the actual paper is here:  https://arxiv.org/pdf/1806.02404.pdf
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