[ExI] Chalmers

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 12:45, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 19:53 Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 09:11, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone in an earlier post, said that he was their favorite
>>> philosopher.  I see in a recent Aeon article that he thinks consciousness
>>> is an illusion and is a dualist.
>>>
>>> I would love to see the day when metaphysical explanations are entirely
>>> in the past, but probably won't.
>>>
>>> So - it's an illusion.  Does that mean that I think I am seeing typed
>>> words on my laptop screen but actually I am not?
>>>
>>> In the same article it seems that the terms 'sensation and perception'
>>> are no longer used, in favor of 'access consciousness' and 'phenomenal
>>> consciousness'.  How are these terms any improvement other than to get
>>> further away from the common person's understanding?  ("Have to be esoteric
>>> or people will think we are full of shit."  which possibly they are)
>>>
>>
>> Chalmers does not believe consciousness is an illusion. I went to a talk
>> he gave where he discussed this as a rather odd idea. He is a property
>> dualist, not a substance dualist, like Descartes. The idea that
>> consciousness is an illusion comes from physicalists like Daniel Dennett,
>> because they think the apparent dualistic aspect of consciousness is an
>> illusion.
>>
>
> Ok, thought so.  Dennett is my nemesis, George R. R. Martin looking
> motherfucker
>

His most important work, in my opinion, is this paper, which proves that
computers can be conscious:

http://consc.net/papers/qualia.html


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Stathis Papaioannou
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