[ExI] I see pitchforks.

Dylan Distasio interzone at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 17:16:19 UTC 2019


Personal tax requirements are much stricter in the US.  You have to
relinquish your US citizenship to stop paying US taxes regardless of where
you live.  It is one of the most oppressive tax policies compared to other
countries' citizens living abroad.


On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 1:06 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What about the rich simply moving to another country?  Multinationals make
> money overseas that isn't taxed here, right?  So what is stopping them?
> billw
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> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
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>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *John Clark
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>> *>> **Once that number is set to a billion dollars in assets, we recall
>> that currency value is arbitrary. *
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>> >…Yes that number is arbitrary, we might decide to set it at half a
>> billion or maybe 2 billion, but the point is we need a wealth tax. Or do
>> you think this acceleration of the wealth gap can continue forever without
>> a hiccup?
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>> Ja, in a sense.  If there is a hiccup, it isn’t one we would notice.  The
>> super-wealthy gather in their places (Palo Alto is an example) and compete
>> against each other.  Meanwhile the rest of us go about our business the
>> usual way.  Neither the super-wealthy nor the proletariat know much or care
>> all that much about what the other side is doing.  I don’t obsess about
>> it.  I know the people in Palo Alto have more money than they know what to
>> do with, but my only involvement with them is driving thru to donate to the
>> blood bank or visit the marvelous Stanford book store.
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>> >…Come on Spike, do you really think that is an inescapable objection to
>> the idea of a wealth tax? Just adjust the point where the tax kicks in with
>> the inflation rate…
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>> The way they did with the income tax?
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>> >…Some people will always try to cheat on their taxes, even today some
>> people do exactly what you describe above and sometimes they get away with
>> it, but usually they don't and end up in jail… John K Clark
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>> Sure but with the wealth tax, they wouldn’t need jails.  They would only
>> need a place to pile the ashes.
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>> John, the whole notion is embracing murderous totalitarianism in order to
>> stop all the unreasonable optimism and unfairness of wealth disparity.
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>> I’ll taaaaake… optimism and disparity for 500 please Alex.
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>> Besides that, I would argue that the optimism isn’t necessarily
>> unreasonable.  I have so many great ideas, sooner or later one of them will
>> make buttloads of money.
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>> spike
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