[ExI] control again

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 13 14:51:28 UTC 2019


Adrian wrote:

Notice that schools are among the primary targets of religious extremists.

Of course there is nothing new under the sun.  Think of the Middle Ages and
later when the RC Church keep the Bible away from everyone but priests who
could read Latin.
bill w


On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 9:27 PM Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:

> I like to think of the most effective military actions as creating a
> context for marketing - or, perhaps, of shutting down other marketing.
>
> You can't pitch as much to people if your marketers keep getting slain.
>
> Notice that schools are among the primary targets of religious extremists.
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:44 PM William Flynn Wallace <
> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In The Blank Slate, Pinker offers us ways to take some aspects of our
>> human nature and make a better society.  I got to thinking:  what is the
>> most successful way of leading people, changing their behaviors, including
>> letting go of their money, and no psychologist came to mind (unless it was
>> Watson in his later career), no technique of conditioning, reinforcement or
>> punishment.
>>
>> Then the idea struck me:  what influences everybody, everyday, in
>> significant ways, including spending their money?
>>
>> Marketing.  Don't try to get people to change by forcing them in some
>> way, making laws as an example. (yeah, if you've got them by the balls,
>> their hearts and minds will follow, but that's wrong in so many ways),
>> Sell them the ideas.  Great ideas will sell themselves to people and once
>> some are sold, others will follow.
>>
>> So my vote for most effective manipulator of behavior of all time,
>> without doing anything authoritarian, immoral, or forcing, is Madison
>> Avenue.
>>
>> If you, like me, are someone who can be easily led by the right
>> situations, and can never be effectively pushed (which creates a powerful
>> counterforce in me), then it has to be marketing for the selling of ideas.
>> Freely chosen things are usually much preferred to those demanded.  (Are
>> they really free choices is a philosophical question, not a practical one.)
>>
>> There's gotta be a way to make buttloads of money out of this!
>>
>> bill w
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