[ExI] stealth singularity

Dylan Distasio interzone at gmail.com
Sat Jun 15 20:59:04 UTC 2019


Sorry I meant the Chrome book.

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 4:57 PM Dylan Distasio <interzone at gmail.com> wrote:

> Replace the Raspberry Pi with a Nvidia Jetson Nano for a bit more at $99 with
> a ton more bang for buck.  It's equipped to run multiple neural networks in
> parallel, one for computer vision, one for movement, etc.
>
> https://developer.nvidia.com/embedded/jetson-nano-developer-kit
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 3:25 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of
>> Stuart LaForge
>> Subject: Re: [ExI] stealth singularity
>>
>>
>> Quoting Spike:
>>
>> > If we go with the notion of a wheelchair manikin for the elderly AD
>> > patients, many of them are sight impaired.  This means we don't need
>> > to be very sophisticated  with the facial-expression actuators at all.
>> > We need a two-axis to bend and rotate the neck, a jaw actuator, an
>> > eyebrow actuator and not a heck of a lot more.  From the neck down it
>> > is easy (assuming it doesn't have THAT capability.)
>>
>> There are two alternate ways to go with this. If you are going to try to
>> mimic a human being, it should be as realistic as possible. If you simply
>> want a robot companion, it could be a walking talking teddy bear or other
>> obvious robot. But if you try for realism and fall short, you wind up in
>> the uncanny valley and could easily creep grandma out...
>>
>> Stuart LaForge
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Oh good point Stuart and a path to success as a bonus.
>>
>> Plenty of the current very old might remember the old Howdy Doody show.
>> We could easily rig
>>
>> 1)  a Howdy Doody ventriloquist dummy (350 sheckels)
>> 2)  perhaps six of actuators (two rotational, four linear) (about 300
>> doubloons):
>>
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Deluxe-Upgrade-Howdy-Doody-Ventriloquist-Dummy-Bonus-Bundle/995011573?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=17533&adid=22222222227260395305&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=309737582794&wl4=pla-558505699560&wl5=9032144&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=125215090&wl11=online&wl12=995011573&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8efnsJXs4gIVkspkCh2PQAK3EAQYBSABEgIOWfD_BwE
>>
>> 3)  a light-duty wheelchair (70 clams):
>>
>>
>> https://www.karmanhealthcare.com/product/t-2000/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9NSPoJbs4gIVCdtkCh1qmgETEAQYAiABEgL4S_D_BwE
>>
>> 4) an Alexa microphone/speaker arrangement (75 simoleons):
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/all-new-amazon-echo-speaker-with-wifi-alexa-sandstone/dp/B06XXM5BPP/ref=asc_df_B06XXM5BPP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198093960169&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6608912565318232722&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032144&hvtargid=pla-368322185710&psc=1
>>
>>
>> 5) Low-level ChromeBook-ish processor so that it can be entirely
>> self-contained or Wifi-enabled (100 spondulicks):
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Chromebook-Wi-Fi-11-6-Inch-Refurbished/dp/B00M9K7L8S/ref=asc_df_B00M9K7L8S/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309776868400&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9244187651952355625&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032144&hvtargid=pla-525273343191&psc=1
>>
>>
>> We are safely on the other side of uncanny valley from us and still under
>> 900 bucks worth of hardware.  Now if we can create software that doesn't
>> get too crazy sophisticated and get that (possibly tricky) six actuators
>> assembly labor cost (down to an hour per unit?) we can perhaps still hit
>> the magic 3 digit numbers, assuming high volume purchases on all
>> components.  Alternative, go with a four-actuator Howdy with only jaw, eyes
>> in two axes and eyebrows, shoot for a two hundred guinea dummy.
>>
>> I would think the total cost to manufacture needs to be well under 1k, so
>> that the retail price is 1400-1500 range price point.
>>
>> Stuart you are a business guy, ja?  Does this look like a feasible
>> opportunity?  It kinda does to me too.
>>
>> spike
>>
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