[ExI] Just some thoughts, nothing new really

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Sun May 19 23:58:39 UTC 2019


On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 9:13 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 3:34 AM Rafal Smigrodzki <
> rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> So you have the right to exclude anyone you don't approve of from
>>> inhabiting the planet Earth, your "home".
>>>
>>
>> > ### Yes, obviously.
>>
>
> Is it just you or do I have that right too?  If I don't want to associate
> with you in my "home" do I have the right to kick you off the planet Earth
> and send you into death?
>

### Every time the police lock somebody up on your behalf, they deprive him
of self-ownership, they exclude him from his own property. The army kills
people on your behalf. If you approve and materially support either
activity, you are using your right to exclude others from living
independently on this planet. For me it's obvious I have the right to
cooperate with others to exclude our enemies from this planet and the whole
universe, as much as physics and technology allow.

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>
>
>> *>  I do know that many illegal immigrants are less intelligent, more
>> violent than the current majority of Americans,*
>>
>
> Did you gain that knowledge from reading tea leaves or by inspecting the
> entrails of sacrificed animals?
>

### From peer-reviewed and universally accepted research.

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>  I am trying, with little success, to get you to elevate the conversation
> and stop asking pointless questions in moral philosophy that can never have
> a unique objective answer and have all the importance of calculating the
> number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin; I am trying to get
> you to help us figure out the best (or at least a better) social policy
> that *might* enable us to make it through the meat grinder that is the
> singularity.
>

### We are not politicians. Our actual influence on politics is very nearly
zero. I do not vote by choice, and even if you do, it's a tiny effect, if
any.

We are jokers on an obscure mailing list. It's entertainment, not real
life. I find it intellectually stimulating and pleasant to organize my
thoughts, as in constructing a chain of inference connecting my basic moral
intuitions to their lower-level, more narrow interpretation. It doesn't
matter if you or I come up with a brilliant idea that would solve our
society's problems - nobody will listen to you or I.

That's why it's best to take it easy.  Shit's gonna happen no matter what.
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