[ExI] Jimmy 'the Greek' Snyder

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 06:58, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *SR Ballard via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Jimmy 'the Greek' Snyder
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> >…Spike, when you go on that there is no “objective way” to determine now,
> you act as if people will easily and willingly claim a gender their
> delivery doctor wouldn’t expect…
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> Delivery doctor?  I am pretty sure mine has died a long time ago.  In any
> case, modern doctors will have no expectations.
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> >…There are very real social and personal costs for being publicly trans.
> It is not likely someone would put on such an emotionally difficult charade
> for a sign on bonus…
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> SR, in the world I am being thrust into, we are all trans.  We are told
> that gender is a state of mind.  Well, OK, who am I to question that?  I
> don’t know what goes on in other peoples’ minds.
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> >…In a highly competitive, cut throat situation like high-level
> athleticism I think it is very plausible, but gendered bonuses are illegal
> in most Anglophone countries, rendering those pressure null…
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> Ja.  I have no intentions of claiming to be female SR.
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> >…Furthering that, a large percent of prisoners in the US are mentally
> ill. They would be better served in a psychiatric institution that was
> dismantled a while back…
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> Ja.  If we didn’t have prisons, we would be in one hell of a jam.
> Regarding psychiatric institutions being dismantled, most people do not
> know why that was done.  But we do: lack of customers.
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> >…Did you know in other countries that they have prisons without the
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> SR, how can we know?  It could be that in other countries they can legally
> incarcerate psychiatric patients and they do this out of sight.  We
> wouldn’t know if they were doing that.  In the US, we cannot hold
> psychiatric patients against their will unless they have committed a crime
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That’s not true. Laws differ from state to state, but there are legal
mechanisms to detain and treat people who present a serious risk to
themselves or others due to mental illness. I don’t think there is anywhere
in the world where someone with dementia or psychosis, for example, would
be allowed to wander into traffic on the grounds that they have not been
convicted of a crime.

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Stathis Papaioannou
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