[ExI] kruger dunning again

[Dylan Distasio]

They also eventually ate their own and ended up sending many of their own
to the guillotine.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:51 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I wonder how the French felt about 1800, when they had trashed mansions.
> beheaded the aristocracy and so on.  Were they happy then?  I suspect not.
> There were by a large margin not enough gilt mirrors to go around to the
> poor.  bill w
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> A huge amount of American grassroots political rhetoric makes enormously
>> more sense when you realize that a significant number of lower-income
>> Americans actually genuinely believe that the billionaire class,
>> collectively, has enough money to give American citizen tens of thousands
>> of dollars, and possibly not even miss it.
>>
>> This was made obvious a few months ago when a newscaster overestimated
>> Bloomberg's campaign spending (or underestimated the American population,
>> or both) by 2 or 3 orders of magnitude, and it went unnoticed by the
>> overwhelming majority of the media class, and their audience.
>>
>> If you genuinely believe that, then yes, it follows without a lot of
>> mental gymnastics that the giga-rich /actually are/ reptilians in human
>> skin [or may as well be] playing games with the lives of billions for
>> profit and perverted fun.
>>
>> Innumeracy may be the root, if not of all evil, at least of all
>> discontent.
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:56 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
>>> *Subject:* [ExI] kruger dunning again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >… Surveys show that about 30% of Americans believe that a vaccine
>>> exists but it is being withheld, and that a cure for the virus exists but
>>> is being withheld…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ja that whole narrative is being fed by the case load in China falling
>>> to zero.  I have my notion on what is causing that: they lie.  If one
>>> accepts their word on it, then we get to pick an explanation, none of which
>>> are very plausible.  Their strict lockdown is working far better than any
>>> other countries doing similar measures (quite dubious), they have some kind
>>> of genetic-based immunity (we know they don’t) the virus loves communists
>>> (doubt that one) any one of a number of similarly suspect theories, or they
>>> must have discovered a vaccine or a cure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Given all those, I suspect they are lying with their numbers.
>>> Reasoning: even if they did discover a cure, they would still have cured
>>> cases, or if a vaccine, they couldn’t immunize 1.4 billion people that fast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Given those choices, I see why 30% of Americans believe that a vaccine
>>> exists, but we don’t have it here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >…Now if true these would be earth-shaking facts and Hell to pay…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed?  What hell is China going to pay, after we already know they
>>> kept the outbreak secret until it could spread to the whole planet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >…It make me wonder what would have happened if owning property was a
>>> prerequisite of voting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bill w
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Owning property doesn’t make one smart.  Evidence would be to ask
>>> respondents if they own property, then see what percentage thinks a secret
>>> C-19 cure exists.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If owning property ever became a prerequisite for voting, oh mercy that
>>> would be a grand opportunity to make a buttload of money.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I co-own some “property” in West Virginia with no road to it.  My
>>> property taxes are under 3 dollars a year on that.  It has no zoning and no
>>> restrictions from sub-dividing it, as far as we know.  We could study the
>>> definition of the term “property” then figure out how many separate piece
>>> of “property” could be created and sold per square foot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> spike
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