[ExI] covid or cold?

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Fri Dec 24 20:25:34 UTC 2021


On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 07:14, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *…*> *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] covid or cold?
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> >…How much data is enough data?  That omicron is fairly harmless, that
> is.  Can't be too careful?  Of course you can, and many people will dispute
> the timing.  Anyway, since the first strain of the virus is still killing
> people (I assume), what's wrong with being careful?  I do agree that
> lockdowns and closures are too much, and maybe always have been.  bill w
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> Ja, billw, we yanks can’t get out of our own way.
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> The harm caused by lockdowns is difficult to estimate, of course it is.
> We know it caused a lotta harm.  In my own family we had one covid death,
> but her list of other problems was longer than your arm, so it isn’t
> clear.  We had two who died of covid but not with covid: one had chronic
> congestive heart failure the medics were controlling for the past 15 years,
> covid caused his hospital to go out of business for lack of customers, he
> ran out of his carefully-tuned diuretics, “reasoned” that coffee is a
> diuretic (sheesh cuz) ramped up that “medication,” adios amigo, age 64.
> Another cousin, covid shutdown, his business failed, his girl left, he
> ended it, age 28.
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> So… how do we count those?  In the USA, we don’t really.  The one counts
> as a fatality with or of covid, the other two don’t count at all.
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> How do we count the chaos caused to some students by doing a year of
> remote learning, and how do we count those fortunate few who prospered
> during that period?  We don’t, because we really don’t know how.  How do we
> count that covid drove zoom technology, which is overall beneficial?  How
> do we estimate the value of the expensive education in biology and
> immunology that covid has driven?  How do we estimate the cost of
> continuing the shutdown?  I am open to suggestion.
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Do you think that letting COVID run unchecked would be better for the
economy, students, the medical system, mental health?

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Stathis Papaioannou
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