[ExI] My take on UFOs UAPs & all that

[Keith Henson]

Since I used to manufacture UFOs (early 60s) and know of others who
did the same, I can't take the LGM idea seriously.

But as there are hearings in Congress about an impossible cover-up,
astronomers have found what can (in my opinion) only be an
extraterrestrial civilization.  The paper is too long for the list, so
you will have to find it yourself.

I don't jump to such a conclusion lightly.  My former view was
consistent with "An analysis by Anders Sandberg, Eric Drexler and Toby
Ord suggests "a substantial ex ante probability of there being no
other intelligent life in our observable universe".[85]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

However, now we have observations of Tabby's Star, where the light
curve dips are consistent with the passage of an object in orbit that
is 400 times the area of the Earth.  OK, it might have an explanation
like a disrupted planet, though none of the ideas holds up well to
analysis.

However, a recent examination of nearby stars shows that there are 15
of them doing the same thing.  These are all normal F and G-type stars
in a cluster.  What it looks like to me is the expansion of a species
that has moved beyond the biological and is spreading out in a way
short of a Dyson Sphere (a K2).

If this is correct, there are good points, bad points, and strange
points.  The good thing is that we seem to have an example of a
species that got through the "filters" (though they could be an AI
offspring).  Tapping that much of the output of their star certainly
solved energy problems as well.  The bad thing is that we have
competition.

The strange and unlikely thing is that we have such a civilization (or
Star Fungus, or whatever you want to call it) within 1500 LY and doing
something we can observe.

As of a couple of weeks ago, there was only one story in the NZ
Herald.  I.e., there is little or no mainstream media interest.

Anders & company are very busy, I don't think I should say what they
are doing, but I wonder what they think about this strange situation?

Keith

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 6:20 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
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> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 12:52 AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> If the truth is that I can't do what I want
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> In many, many cases - possibly most, anecdotally judging by my own experience - there is a temptation to say 'can't be done" when a closer examination reveals the truth is "can't be done BY THAT PARTICULAR MEANS".
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> For instance, it is well known that it is impossible to simply accelerate via rockets to faster than the speed of light.  There exist theoretical ways to travel faster than light, just not via rockets...and to travel off of Earth, even to set up human habitation off of Earth, does not require travel beyond the speed of light: many wonders await once the financial cost of travelling around our own solar system comes down.  Finances are rarely limited by physics.
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> Saving ourselves, on an individual basis, from boredom and senility is within our own power.  (Not as much collectively, as some will choose boredom and senility, and resist being "rescued".)
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