[ExI] [Extropolis] libertarians

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Thu Aug 17 15:41:42 UTC 2023


Spike,
Thanks for this info.
It's nice to hear about some benefits of all this bleating and tweeting
polarization.


On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 9:22 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…I didn't realize there were this many people that think Trump is Better
> than Biden, here.
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> I sure think it'd be great to know how many people are on what side of
> this issue.
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> Here is what I think.
> <https://canonizer.com/topic/853-If-Only-Trump-or-Biden--who-/1-Agreement>
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> Brent this observation has likely been influenced by how the past three
> years have gone.
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> It argues for ranked voting a proliferation of parties.  Having just two
> parties dominate everything leads to bad outcomes, just as California’s
> defacto single party system does.  Eventually a two-party system leads to
> civil war in government, as has been raging for about the past 6 to 10
> years, growing steadily hotter.
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> There is a cool side benefit however: waaaay better transparency in
> government than we have ever seen.  Cover ups are being exposed.  We are
> finding out how deep the corruption goes, which appears deep indeed.  If
> that quid pro quo video is real, that implicates the hell outta congress
> for instance.  If the 1023 revealed by congress recently is real, it
> implicates the hell outta the FBI.  If the IRS is telling the truth, it
> implicates the hell outta the Department of Justice, who the IRS claims
> ordered them to stand down on mysterious money trails, which it is the IRS’
> job to investigate.
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> That is a lotta potential corruption, and it is very widespread.
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> Regarding proliferation of parties, what that does is create the need for
> coalitions in government.  So the end game in that is to still have
> (functionally) two sides, even without having two dominant parties.  The
> two sides gain power by collecting coalitions, or groups of parties.
> Britain gets it mostly right here, with their three major parties, all
> needing to form coalitions.
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> spike
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