[ExI] [Extropolis] who?

[William Flynn Wallace]

Status - Compared to the rest of our group members, my status ought to be
at the bottom.  I am not a techie, went no further than algebra and trig.
No matter - I stay out of those discussions anyway.  I post only when I
understand the ideas.

Professors get a free ride in society re status.  I think that should
extend to those who worked at high levels in science and/or had advanced
degrees.  But I'll bet that those credentials don't matter to our group
members - sophistication and nuanced ideas and creativity count more than
what we did before joining. And I think that for the most part. members
don't think much about status.  We don't defer to anyone if possible.  bill
w

On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 1:35 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] [Extropolis] trump
>
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 10:18 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
> > >
> > >>... Keith I fully embrace the notion that EP has genetically
> > >>programmed me to write comments such as the paragraph above.  Cool!
> > >>spike
> >
> >> >...Oh?  What evolved psychological trait motivates you to post?
> >
> >>... My posts elicit responses which I find intriguing.  It's why I have
> been hanging around here for the past nearly 3 decades.  It is interesting
> here.  I have no other mailing lists where the topic of EP is discussed or
> even known.
>
> >...That does not answer the question I asked,  The underlying motivation
> for posting is the same as a wide range of things humans do, we do it for
> status...
>
> Keith, status is a possible motivation, but it isn't a universal
> motivation for posting here, and I might even argue it isn't even a primary
> motive in my case.  I am not and have never been, a high status person.
> There are not many of us left, so status is mostly irrelevant.  I am on
> some much larger internet forums, and ones which are read by neighbors,
> where status does matter.  If I posted primarily for status, I would post
> there much more often than I do, which is seldom indeed.
>
> EP is a powerful explanatory notion.  With that, it carries a heavy burden
> of caution against confirmation bias.
>
> In my own case, I have posted stuff here that I know will reduce my status
> in this group, but I do so anyway, for I am interested in the responses it
> will generate.  An example: we are living in times where there is
> daily-accumulating evidence that our current POTUS, whose name I cannot
> recall, received a 5 million dollar bribe in exchange for getting a
> Ukrainian prosecutor fired.  Source: FBI.  The FBI wrote an unclassified
> F-1023 with the details.  The IRS found some of the money trails, at least
> parts of the trails, without knowledge of the FBI report.
>
> Even mentioning that turd in the punchbowl will lower my status in this
> group most likely, and lower my status in your eyes Keith, which is a
> status I value highly.  I choose to post that however, for it is impossible
> to ignore and has enormous consequences, among which is a motive for US
> committing unlimited military and financial support of Ukraine, which
> places the planet's two biggest nuclear powers on opposite sides of the
> battlefield.  This is not good.
>
> >...I might add that posting to the Extropian list (at least in the past)
> did result in high status (if not more nooky.)
>
> Sure but you are a special case Keith.  You have done a lotta cool stuff.
>
> >...I ran into a paper by Maxwell Tabarrok where he traced the
> world-shaking influence of ideas originating on this list.
>
> https://maximumprogress.substack.com/p/grading-extropian-predictions
>
> We could argue that prediction markets originated here with Robin Hanson's
> Ideas Futures.  I am convinced that digital cash was invented here, with
> Hal Finney's work.  My own work on MBrains came from Robert's work on the
> topic, which he generously invited me to work on over many years, which is
> helping me understand what might be happening at Tabby's star.  Those are
> three huge developments.  There have been a lotta really cool ideas I have
> been introduced to in this forum.
>
> spike
>
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