[ExI] teachers

Jason Resch jasonresch at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 04:51:41 UTC 2023


On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 12:14 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 8:26 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I also disagree with the assessment that MW is not falsifiable. If we run
>> a conscious mind on a quantum computer, and the quantum computation fails
>> due to the consciousness of the mind on the computer causing collapse, and
>> it eliminates the interference pattern, then MW is falsified.
>>
>> Here is David Deutsch's description of the experiment:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4rrNMdbmSsHGsLkh9
>>
>
> How is MW falsified in this case?  There can exist events which are the
> same in all worlds that had the same starting condition,  and we would
> never  know.
> ______________________________


It's only falsified if the interference pattern isn't restored after
quantum erasing the conscious observer's mind.

Collapse theories say collapse happens by the time or during conscious
observation, and that it is irreversible and destroys the interference
pattern.

MW on the other hand does not say (apparent) collapse is irreversible, but
that everything is linear, continuous and time reversible. It's just hard
for normal macroscopic systems to be reversed, hence why it is done on a
quantum computer which can be completely controlled and leaks no
information to the environment.

So if we can fully reverse the system after a conscious observation is
made, and erase the which-way information concerning the measurement, then
the interference pattern should be recovered, confirming MW and ruling out
collapse as any kind of objectively real phenomenon.

Jason
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