[ExI] FW: How fun could doom intelligent life to a blissful extinction

[Keith Henson]

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 5:37 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
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> When it comes to maximizing total experience, it is a function of: Total Experience = Population×Time. A civilization with 10 billion that lasts 1 century, generates as much experience as a population of 1 Billion would in 1 millennium.

The other alternative is to upload into a fast simulation.  A
million-to-one speedup will give 50 million years of subjective
experience in 50 years.

I wrote about this at some length here:
https://hplusmagazine.com/2012/04/12/transhumanism-and-the-human-expansion-into-space-a-conflict-with-physics/

But I could be wrong.  The light curves from Tabby's star make a case
for something building structures 400 times the area of the Earth.

Keith

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>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
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>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, spike jones via extropy-chat wrote:
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>> > I posted this right before the ExI list barfed.  Posting again.
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>> > From: spike at rainier66.com <spike at rainier66.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, 15 July, 2023 4:14 PM
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>> > Cc: 'BillK' <pharos at gmail.com>; spike at rainier66.com
>> > Subject: RE: [ExI] How fun could doom intelligent life to a blissful extinction
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>> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of BillK via extropy-chat
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>> >> ...If the pursuit of happiness is the primary explanation for our decreasing fertility rate, this tendency might be true not just for humans but for all intelligent life — providing a possible explanation for the Fermi Paradox.
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>> > <https://bigthink.com/the-future/pursuit-happiness-doom-intelligent-life-blissful-extinction/>
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>> > BillK, this is really as plausible an explanation for the Fermi Paradox as any I have heard, and perhaps the most pleasant one.  Having children is a way to experience happiness, but it is a risky bet indeed.  If we find sufficient alternative routes to happiness, the notion of having children becomes ever less compelling.  If we find alternative routes to the pleasures of copulation and all those cool endorphins we get from love, that whole risky activity isn't worth the effort either.  Result: not enough young people to run the world we already built for them.
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>> > But of course nuclear war could wipe out most of what we have done, creating the need for rebuilders and family people, so we might save our species in that horrifying way: radiation therapy.  Or the singularity could kill us, but I don't think it would kill people who have never seen a computer.  They might survive to build it all back.
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