[ExI] H+ Academy Discussion - AI Pause vs. Proceed

[Keith Henson]

The couple of times I gave sermons (Lutheran) I didn't write anything,
just winged it.

I can't remember what the subject of one of them was, but the other
was "The practical aspects of being a good Samaritan."

It was based on the experience of picking up a couple of very sick
people from the side of the road and nursing them back to health.

Keith

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 9:05 AM spike jones via extropy-chat

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> ...> On Behalf Of BillK via extropy-chat
> Subject: Re: [ExI] H+ Academy Discussion - AI Pause vs. Proceed
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> On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 15:43, spike jones via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> > On the contrary Gadersd.  GPT-4 can write sermons, but there is a
> particular brand of classical sermons on which GPT-4 contains material
> offensive or foreign to the target audience.  That target audience is where
> the money is.  I have heard if you pass the hat in modern congregations, you
> are lucky if you get your hat back.  Audiences for classical sermons pay.
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> > spike
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> >...That is just saying what you have to do with everything that ChatGPT
> writes.
> Give it the specific prompts for what you want, it will write 10 pages
> around that subject, then you have to do the manual bit of proofreading and
> editing to remove 'hallucinations' and parts offensive to your target
> audience.  Job done!
>
> BillK
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> Ja, well...eh.... maybe.  BillK, creating a classical sermon is not only
> trimming out the hallucinations and foreign matter, it is all about
> including a bunch of stuff that I can guaran-damn-tee you ChatGPT knows
> nothing about (I experimented with it.)  There is material in that fishbowl
> (still there (the four long tables still where I left them four decades
> ago)) which is not in GPT's training database (and shouldn't be.)
>
> That stuff might not be necessary of course, but for the specialized
> classical sermon audience I am thinking of (the pay-dirt believers) it
> helps.
>
> The more I think about it however, the less ethical the whole notion sounds.
> I walked away from a career in the ministry for ethical reasons a long time
> ago, and I still have a conscience four decades later.   This would be
> taking advantage of good people, of their ignorance in a way.  I might argue
> with myself that theirs is willful ignorance.  Many of the consumers of that
> genre have a bitter determination to maintain that solidly-grounded
> ignorance, and they are good at filtering out stuff that doesn't belong in
> their world view.
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> But I would know that ethically the pastor-bot notion is not climbing out of
> the yellow.  Currently the needle on my ethics-o-meter is pointing in the
> orange zone and gradually drifting redward.
>
> spike
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