[ExI] Fwd: [AR] Planned FAA LOX-Methane Safety Studies?

Keith Henson hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Wed Jun 7 17:12:56 UTC 2023


On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 9:49 PM spike jones via extropy-chat
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> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Keith Henson via extropy-chat
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> >...The FAA concern is bulkhead failure, intimate mixing of the liquid methane and LOX, and a shock to make a big boom.
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> >...Burning on contact makes a heck of a fire, but no shock wave....
> Keith
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> Keith I don't know about the triethylene aluminum idea, sounds reasonable.  But now I am interested in trying to make a big boom by intentionally mixing LOX and liquid methane and intentionally making a big boom, just for the hell of it.  One woulda thought I had outgrown such silliness by now.
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> spike

There are some practical problems with this.  LOX is easy to get, but
LNG is not so simple.  Oxygen boiling out of a storage dewar is a lot
less of a problem than natural gas.

There are people, not sure if you know them, who have mixed propane
and LOX in two-liter bottles. The two are not miscible the way LNG and
LOX are, but my understanding is that they mix better if you screw on
the cap and let the bottle warm up some.

>From stories I have heard, the bottle goes bang about 1/3 of the time
with a 30-06 round and every time with a tracer round.  The bang is
about equal to a 50-pound box of dynamite.

Keith
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