[ExI] [Extropolis] Thoughts on the manifesto of futurist science (1916).

[Giulio Prisco]

<Benito Mussolini…>

The book I recommended shows that Mussolini was an answer to the concerns
of a large number of Italians, mostly young working class men who had
participated in WW1, who were feeling that they had been thrown away in the
rubbish bin of history. The Italian political establishment ignored them,
and Mussolini was the only one who offered an answer.

I’m not an American and I prefer to keep away from US politics, but I have
the impression that the same can be said of Trump.

That an answer is questionable doesn’t mean that the concerns it responds
to are not valid.

< ESP research that had led, just like everybody else's ESP research,
precisely nowhere…>

This is your opinion. Others, including top scientists like Stuart Kauffman
and winners of the Nobel Prize in Physics like Brian Josephson, think that
there’s plenty of solid experimental evidence for ESP. As a scientist who
has been working in other fields, I prefer to watch with an open mind. If
humans have natural ESP abilities, good! If not, no big deal, we’ll just
have to engineer equivalent abilities, and we’re doing this already.


On 2023. Jun 7., Wed at 4:55, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 7:53 PM Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Giulio
>
> >> "I see strong parallels between Italian fascism and its leader and
>>> modern day American fascism and its leader"
>>
>>
>
> > "*Sorry, I don’t know who is the leader of modern day American fascism*
>> ."
>
>
> Benito Mussolini staged a coup d'état on October 28 1922 in order to
> become dictator of Italy, Donald Trump staged a coup d'état on January 6
> 2021 in order to become dictator of America. The only difference is
> Mussolini's coup d'état worked, Trump's didn't. But Trump hasn't given
> up.
>
>
>> >> "Nobody says somebody doesn't have a right to do psi research, but
>>> such people do NOT have a right to demand respect from scientists for such
>>> activities"
>>
>>
>> > "*I’m sitting on the fence with an open mind. If I were a psi
>> researcher, I wouldn’t demand respect. I would just demand to be left in
>> peace, like, do your research and I’ll do mine, and let experiment decide.*
>> "
>>
>
> If I was a professor and was on a committee to determine if somebody
> should get tenure at my university, and all they had done was conduct ESP
> research that had led, just like everybody else's ESP research, precisely
> nowhere, then I would definitely vote against granting tenure. This is
> because, due to finite resources, there's only a limited number of people
> who can receive it and there are plenty of good mathematicians, physicists.
> chemists and biologists who deserve it more. If that were to happen the
> rejected professor would undoubtedly scream that he was being discriminated
> against, and that would be true, we would be discriminating between good
> scientists and bad scientists, but he would even claim that he was the
> victim of censorship, but that would not be true. He's free to say whatever
> he wishes to say and is free to continue with his "research"; it's just
> that the university has decided not to continue paying him to do it.  If
> you pay somebody to conduct yet another investigation into spoon bending to
> go with the 6.02*10^23 ones that have already been done then you don't have
> the resources to pay somebody else to conduct research in an area that is
> almost certain to be more productive.
>
>  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
> sbb
>
>
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