[ExI] Conscious AI or a Zombie?

Gadersd gadersd at gmail.com
Wed Jun 21 14:50:36 UTC 2023


> If all of this is moving in the direction of giving human rights to machines, I think it's wrong.

Are you not a biological machine?

> On Jun 21, 2023, at 10:17 AM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> 
> If all of this is moving in the direction of giving human rights to machines, I think it's wrong.   bill w
> 
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 8:59 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
> There is nothing wrong with abusing a zombie but abusing a sentient creature is something generally considered wrong. If there is an animal or machine that acts as if it were conscious and we don’t have a way to distinguish acting from the real thing then we had better treat such entities as if they were conscious.
> 
> > On Jun 21, 2023, at 7:21 AM, BillK via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
> > 
> > How could we distinguish conscious AI from its zombie equivalent?
> > The idea that consciousness emerges naturally alongside intelligence
> > could be an anthropocentric distortion.
> > June 20, 2023   Anil Seth
> > 
> > <https://bigthink.com/the-future/intelligence-conscious-ai/ <https://bigthink.com/the-future/intelligence-conscious-ai/>>
> > 
> > Quotes:
> > From the 16th-century golem to the replicants in Blade Runner, stories
> > of sentient human-like creatures tend to end in philosophical and
> > existential chaos.
> > The rapid rise of AI has lent fresh urgency to questions about machine
> > consciousness.
> > It is a mistake to assume that intelligence — at least in advanced
> > forms — is either necessary or sufficient for consciousness.
> > 
> > Although intelligence offers a rich menu of ramified conscious states
> > for conscious organisms, it is a mistake to assume that intelligence —
> > at least in advanced forms — is either necessary or sufficient for
> > consciousness. If we persist in assuming that consciousness is
> > intrinsically tied to intelligence, we may be too eager to attribute
> > consciousness to artificial systems that appear to be intelligent, and
> > too quick to deny it to other systems — such as other animals — that
> > fail to match up to our questionable human standards of cognitive
> > competence.
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> > BillK
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