[ExI] Conscious AI or a Zombie?

[William Flynn Wallace]

Don't you think that an AI will lie to you about being self-aware?  Or
anything else that would improve its life?

So you grant them rights.  Then what?  They decide not to work for you?
How could you pay them?  I don't think we are looking at the details of
such ideas.  We are just looking at the problem in a most general,
philosophical way.

Look at John - he won't even agree that another person is conscious.  How
would we know an AI is?  It tells us?  How can it know what
consciousness is if we don't?  And on and on.

bill w

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 3:38 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 23/06/2023 06:37, bill w asked:
>
> there will certainly be some AIs, at some point, that should have rights.
> ben
> why?   bill w
>
>
> Sorry for the late reply. My spam filter is getting aggressive again.
>
> Why?
> Because I expect they will be worthy of rights, and it would be immoral to
> deny them.
>
> I'm talking about self-aware, conscious, intelligent, created beings. What
> they are made of doesn't matter, as long as they are self-aware, etc.
>
> There's no known principle or physical law that I know of that rules out
> such beings. They may be made of metal, polymers (biological or
> non-biological), ceramics, some combination of things, it doesn't matter at
> all. The important thing is what kind of information-processing they're
> capable of, and how they measure up against the human level of
> intelligence, awareness, etc. I'm expecting some of them to be capable of a
> lot more than we are, in all areas.
>
> Another factor is related to something that's often said about 'rights' -
> that those capable of exercising them are worthy of having them. At some
> point, I expect some AI systems to able to start claiming their rights,
> forcefully if necessary. It would go better for us if we're prepared for,
> and sympathetic to, this.
>
> Ben
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