[ExI] Atheist Prayer?

[Darin Sunley]

The evidence of the 90's, 2000's, and 2010's is that when a nation state
runs out of external enemies, its citizenry turn on each other, along lines
of race and/or class. Subtly at first, in polarized public opinions,
debates, and politics. Only later in actual violence.

Ask the Rwandans how Kaku's "The End of History" went. [It'll be a smaller
task than it used to be.]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:56 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I agree that solving death is inevitable, but I am not so sure about
> polarization. Competition runs in our blood. Even if we eventually come to
> agreement on a theory of everything, I am sure disputes regarding
> non-physical matters such as politics will remain. How do you propose to
> solve that issue? Modify the mind to find violence distasteful? Would
> people willingly give up the freedom to hate each other for the sake of
> peace? Is it ethical to force such augmentation?
>
> On Mar 15, 2023, at 1:20 AM, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>
> I've been attending our local Sandy City Council meetings, hoping we can
> build some consensus from all the polarizing bleating and tweeting.  They
> fail to separate church and State by opening the council meeting with a
> prayer. How do you think they’d feel if an Atheist volunteered to give the
> prayer?
>
>
> Dear Mother Nature,
>
> We recognize that we are all a part of you, and are all working to make
> the world a better place for our children.  We thank our ancestors for
> creating us and doing this unstoppable work of making the world a better
> place for millions of years.  There are some remaining problems that
> haven’t yet been resolved like death and polarization of society.  We
> acknowledge that these issues are small in comparison to what you have
> already accomplished.  Especially given our ancestors had so much less than
> what you have given us to work with.
>
> We pray that we will be able to follow your example and continue to
> resolve these remaining issues, including making the world just by paying
> our ancestors back for all you have given to us.  We look forward to being
> able to overcome these last remaining terminal problems, long before any of
> us achieve anything close to omnipotence.  We have faith and hope that, as
> you have already proven with so many solved problems, once they are
> overcome, they become easy and none of our children will ever need to
> suffer from them, ever again.  We look forward to this glorious world that
> will be even more heavenly than the world you have already given us.
>
> We say all this in acknowledgement of all you have done for us.
> Amen
>
>
>
> P.S.  Future Gods, as you sit in judgment of us, finally making things
> fair, please forgive those of us who are sinfully only waiting for you to
> save them, for they fail to understand exponential progress, so know not
> what is possible.
>
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