[ExI] LLM's cannot be concious

[William Flynn Wallace]

 I can then ask the system to relate its definition to the original
utterance,
and it does,

I think this is the key here.  If the system only gives you a synonym for
the word it is understanding nothing.  I still think that 'understand'
needs explanation   bill w

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:31 PM Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> If a system can formulate a sentence that employs a word,
> and I can then ask the system to tell me the definition of that word,
> and it does,
> and I can then ask the system to relate its definition to the original
> utterance,
> and it does,
> and the system goes on to continue to use that word,
> and all of the system's uses of that word are consistent with the
> definition,
> then I no longer even understand what it could possibly mean for that
> system to /not/ "really understand" that word.
>
> You might just as well say humans don't "really understand" words, since
> all our neurons are doing is manipulating concentrations of
> neurotransmitters and calcium ions.
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 10:15 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Is there any referent for the word 'understand' as it relates to an AI?
>> bill w
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 4:42 AM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think those who think LLM  AIs like ChatGPT are becoming conscious or
>>> sentient like humans fail to understand a very important point: these
>>> software applications only predict language. They are very good at
>>> predicting which word should come next in a sentence or question, but they
>>> have no idea what the words mean. They do not and cannot understand what
>>> the words refer to. In linguistic terms, they lack referents.
>>>
>>> Maybe you all already understand this, or maybe you have some reasons
>>> why I am wrong.
>>>
>>> -gts
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