[ExI] What is Consciousness?

[Giovanni Santostasi]

Spike,
I actually had this discussion with chatGPT about having not even different
AI but different instances of ChatGPT itself interacting and regulating
each other.
ChatGPT and I even came up with a scheme on how to do that and making
different instances analyze the output and correct or improve it. It would
be relatively easy to create such self recurrence. I did even some simple
experiments to achieve that. For example you can ask ChatGPT to create a
room of philosophers and debate themselves.
Notice that the version of LaMDA that Lemoine (the Google engineer that
claimed LaMDA is conscious) tested and discussed was a meta version that is
charged with coordinating all the different personalities of LaMDA. That is
exactly what is needed for AGI, the Strange Loop, it is ripe for emergent
phenomena like consciousness.
Giovanni

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 12:01 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…We see recurring themes of information, recursion, computation, and
> machines and logic. I think these are likely key to any formal definition
> of consciousness. …Jason
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> Jason, there is a reason I stopped worrying in the past coupla weeks that
> ChatGPT was going to cause the singularity.  I am a big Hofstader fan, read
> Escher Godel Bach twice, cover to cover, invested a lot of time into that
> marvelous work.  He convinced me that machine consciousness (or any other
> sentience or self-awareness) requires a type of recursion.  Hofstadter goes
> on at length about recursion and self-reference, the importance of Godel’s
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> I tried to convince myself that two or more ChatGPTs could train each
> other on their own time, which is a form of recursion and self-reference,
> and that process could perhaps spring into a human-level AGI with a will,
> with self-awareness, of all the stuff we think of as us.
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> Now after studying GPT^2 discussions and GPT^3 discussions, they all seem
> to devolve to nothing.  The technology I think is still coming for that
> process: two or more AIs training each other using background compute
> cycles, but I now don’t think ChatGPT is that technology or is capable of
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> If you know of examples of GPT-GPT discussions or GPT-any chatbot that
> became interesting, do share please.
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> That belief was behind my comment last week that ChatGPT is not really
> thinking, but rather is working language models.
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> I currently don’t think ChatGPT is the technology capable of causing the
> singularity.  I am losing no sleep, not one minute of sleep over ChatGPT.
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> Oops, partially retract that last comment but in a good way: I am losing
> some sleep over ChatGPT, by staying up late to goof with it.  It is the
> coolest software tool to come along in a long time.
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> spike
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