[ExI] What is Consciousness?

[Brent Allsop]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:34 AM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 10:47 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> So following your rationale that consciousness requires "essential
>> qualities" rather than "abstract data" then old -fashioned color film
>> cameras were conscious:
>>
>
Yes, this is a great first step towards understanding.  Some things in
nature must behave the way they do, because of their intrinsic
colorness quality.  It is theoretically possible that silver-nitrate
crystals behave the way they do, because of their colerness quality.  The
only problem is, there is no computation going on, with the film or in such
a camera, just stand alone silver-nitrate crystals abstractly representing
the picture.
The next required step is computational binding.  In order to
directly apprehend something's intrinsic quality, you need to be able to
computationally bind it into the rest of your consciousness, so you can
directly apprehend their quality, so you can compute with them, enabling
you to say: "Oh THAT is what silver-nitride particles are like."

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:34 AM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> The entire idea of qualia is ridiculous
>

OK, then.  Answer me this,  What is it that has the redness quality in your
brain, when you look at this?
[image: red.png]
Nobody knows that yet.  So you are saying you have no interest,
whatsoever,in knowing what might be responsible for that experience?

Even Dennett's Predictive Bayesian Coding Theory
<https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Theories-of-Consciousness/21-Dennett-s-PBC-Theory>
camp is in a supporting position to RQT
<https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Theories-of-Consciousness/6-Representational-Qualia>
.
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