[ExI] GPT-4 on the Incommunicability of Qulia

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Sat Mar 25 13:18:09 UTC 2023


Instead of using the word 'qualia' which has so many religious
connotations like "spiritual qualiat"?
Can we just instead focus on what is a physical "quality"?

The only reason qualities are "incommunicable" has to do with the
difference between a code for redness, and redness, itself.

A "code" for redness, is something that is not redness, representing
redness.  Physical greenness, physical +5 volts, a physical pit on a paper,
or an abstract world like 'red' can code for redness.  But, since they are
not redness, you need a dictionary to get from the thing that is not
redness, back to the redness, itself.















On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 8:40 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 5:25 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> Hold on a minute Jason.  I know of very little discussion of qualia
>> outside the ExI list.  If it is true that the topic is seldom discussed
>> outside this forum, then for GPT-4 to come up with that insightful answer
>> suggests that… that GPT-4 used the ExI archives as part of its training
>> material.
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> ### I asked GPT4: Was Rafal Smigrodzki ever active on the Extropians list?
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> It answered:
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> I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I don't have access to the
> personal communications or online activities of individuals, including
> Rafal Smigrodzki. The Extropians list was an online mailing list that
> discussed topics related to transhumanism, futurism, and other emerging
> technologies in the late 1990s and early 2000s, but it was shut down in
> 2006. It's possible that Rafal Smigrodzki may have been a member or
> contributor to the list at some point, but without further information or
> confirmation, I cannot say for certain.
>
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> Well, interesting. GPT4 also has heard about my daughter Aurea but it was
> hopelessly confused about my publication record. Looks like its training
> corpus did not include PubMed.
>
> Rafal
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