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[efc at swisscows.email]

Hello Gadersd,

On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Gadersd via extropy-chat wrote:

> laws and governments remains to permit this option. I dread a future
> in which centralization has the whole of humanity trapped within a
> singular regime. I am not sure how AI will change the competitive

I agree. This is one of my biggest fears as well. If we look at humanity
at large, it does look as if there is a historical trend of ever greater
consolidation and centralization. From families on the savannah, to
tribes, to cities, to city states, to many countries and kingdoms and
today to the 200:ish countries we have.

If the trend continues, and once there is a world government in place,
there will be no place to run in case of corruption or malfunctioning of
the system.

Makes one wonder if that in turn, will generate a future like in The
Expanse or The moon is a harsh mistress, where we expand outwards away
from the centralized tyrrany and if the colonies will once again break
free, to then start the cycle of centralization again?

Or will we end up in a utopian Star trek universe where all is good and
everything is post scarcity, despite the centralized governing function?

Best regards, 
Daniel



>
>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 5:40 PM, efc--- via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> 
>> True. ;)
>> 
>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023, Brent Allsop wrote:
>> 
>>> And democracy is the first step, but you still suffer from politics.
>> 
>> Well, on a more serious note, corona was the final straw that made me
>> lose all hope in democracy as a sustainable long term way of running
>> society. Haven't bothered to vote since then, and don't know if I ever
>> will.
>> 
>> When it comes to living life the way I want to live it, I am a proponent
>> of the following techniques:
>> 
>> 1. Voting with your feet (this is the most amount of voting I do). 2. Incorporating yourself. 3. Find good lawyers or read the law book yourself to use the system
>> against itself, and to make it work for you.
>> 
>> But voting... I think I'm done with that game.
>> 
>> Best regards, Daniel
>> 
>> 
>>> And of course the solution to that is giving every lost soul at the bottom a voice (no censoring) and building and tracking consensus
>>> so things can scale.
>>> Once you find enough  people that want the same thing you do, it will just happen.
>>> Building and tracking consensus is the only hard part of getting anything done.
>>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 2:17 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>      Or was it "the last politician strangled with the entrails of the last
>>>      politician."? ;)
>>>
>>>      Best regards,
>>>      Daniel
>>>
>>>      On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:
>>>
>>>      > “Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” Diderot
>>>      >
>>>      > bill w
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