[ExI] Ignemus lucem aeternam

[Gadersd]

> I am curious.  How many of you are signed up for cryonics?

I haven’t signed up because I don’t think I’ll need it. With the singularity on the horizon I think biological immortality, if not uploading, will be available within my natural lifetime (assuming AI doesn’t wipe us out first).

> On Sep 22, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Keith Henson via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> I am curious.  How many of you are signed up for cryonics?
> 
> 
> Keith
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> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 1:33 PM efc--- via extropy-chat
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>> This happens to me too. The advice is to resend your message if you
>> encounter this error.
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>> As for the reason, I have no idea. Maybe some incorrectly configured mail
>> server? It is a bit annoying though.
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>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
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>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023, Keith Henson via extropy-chat wrote:
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>>> For some odd reason, this was blocked. The response from the remote server was:
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>>> 541 5.7.1 Intrusion attempt denied from 209.85.161.42
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>>> From: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 12:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ExI] Ignemus lucem aeternam
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>>> Cc: <rafal at smigrodzki.org>, Gadersd <gadersd at gmail.com>
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>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 10:38 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat
>>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine say "Nah, we're just gonna die. It sounds like a good idea. Eternal life? Hell, fuck no!". The mass insanity! The death cult!. What is wrong with those people?
>>>> 
>>>> Many religions offers eternal life and many Americans are religious. It is sad that people ignore an actually realistic way to achieve long life, but rationality has never been a strong suit of the majority of the population.
>>> 
>>> I can't cite statistics, but I don't think many of those signed up are
>>> religious.  Religions sort of provide a patch for knowledge of
>>> mortality.  Cryonics does that in a different and perhaps more
>>> rational way.
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2023, at 1:53 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>>> In between vegging out on YouTube today I was idly cogitating on the state of cryonics in the US and I was struck by the following statistic - out of 3x10e8 Americans there may be around 3 - 4 thousand who are signed up. Let's say that's one in a hundred thousand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let that sink in - cryonics is a highly scientifically plausible way to avoid dying for a really, really long time, which is easily available to all but the poorest of the poor Americans and yet only 1 person in 100,000 intends to use it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What the holy fuck?
>>>>> 
>>>>> One person in a hundred thousand wants to live to see the future and there will be a lot to see in the future. Telescopes as large as galaxies. Quasars remade into particle accelerators to probe the Planck scale. Oracle AIs whose thoughts will span billions of years. Negentropy driven infinite self-propagating thought substate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine say "Nah, we're just gonna die. It sounds like a good idea. Eternal life? Hell, fuck no!". The mass insanity! The death cult!. What is wrong with those people?
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Deutsch says that every day is the beginning of infinity. Those who make it through the rapture of the nerds will rise to heavens in fiery starships. They will conquer the firmament and piss on alien planets. They will carry the eternal light of thought into the lifeless void.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it is the greatest idea since sliced bread. Life is good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ignemus lucem aeternam!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rafal
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