[Paleopsych] ParaPundit: Whites Still Do Manual Labor In Wisconsin
Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D.
ljohnson at solution-consulting.com
Tue Aug 16 03:44:46 UTC 2005
More thanks for Frank's efforts. This is exactly right. The fast-food
restaurant where I get my lunch salad used to be staffed by ordinary
causasians, often with obvious mild retardation. They were good workers,
and I enjoyed them. Now I can barely understand the girl at the register
and sometimes I have to ask her to say it in Spanish because her English
is so poor. I am deeply discouraged and disillusioned by President
Bush's attitude about illegal emmigration.
Lynn
Premise Checker wrote:
> Whites Still Do Manual Labor In Wisconsin
> http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002938.html#002938
>
> 2005 August 14 Sunday
> Whites Still Do Manual Labor In Wisconsin
>
> Over at [9]No Speed Bumps Dan reports on how [10]during a vacation
> trip in Wisconsin he found white people doing all the manual labor
> jobs that are done by Hispanics in Texas.
>
> Two weeks ago I vacationed near Oshkosh, Wisconsin. One thing
> strikingly different than living in Texas was that there were few
> Hispanics. In Texas, Hispanics are found in all walks of life, from
> doctors to janitors.
>
> With so many impoverished Hispanics illegally moving to Texas over
> the southern border each year, they have taken over most of the
> lower-skill jobs because they will work for less than American
> citizens. Go to any restaurant, hotel, or construction site and all
> of the basic manual labor tasks are being done by low-income
> Hispanics.
>
> Anyway, while on vacation, in the hotels we stayed in all of the
> maid staff and other help were white. The same was true of all of
> the restaurants we ate in, from the cooks, to the bus boys, to the
> grounds keepers. I felt like we were in a time machine and in a
> strange land.
>
> An interesting note about the maid staff at the hotels was the good
> cheer that they were in. They were constantly chatting among
> themselves and seemed very content as they went about their work.
> This reminded me that, yes, there is dignity to manual labor, and
> yes, white people can still do manual labor.
>
> This runs counter to the fashionable argument today justifying the
> open border policy with Mexico. The argument goes that America
> could just not function without all of the low-skill workers coming
> in to do all of the manual labor. Well, that is ridiculous. It may
> drive prices up some, if American citizens (whether white, black,
> or any other race) must do the work but the work will still get
> done, one way or another.
>
> One of the big whopper lies told by open borders advocates such as
> George W. Bush is that there are "jobs that Americans won't do". This
> is nonsense. One only need travel to those places where the bulk of
> the population is still white to see that this claim is false
> propaganda.
>
> As for the argument that a lack of cheap immigrant labor will drive up
> prices, it rests on three fallacies:
> * That low skilled labor makes up much of total costs. Wrong-o
> sleigh bell lovers. The bottom quintile of the United States
> population earns [11]only 3.5% of national income. 20% get 3.5%.
> If we deported all the illegal aliens and stopped all low skiilled
> and moderate skilled immigration the bottom 20% would see some
> significant increase in their wages. But that increase would be
> unlikely raise total prices by even a couple of percent. We don't
> pay them that much. A 10% or 20% increase in their salaries won't
> matter much to the rest of the population.
> * That there are no substitutes for cheap labor. Again, wrong-o
> sleigh bell lovers. Necessity is the mother of invention. In all
> likelihood, faced with higher labor costs industry would be more
> eager to develop and buy more capital equipment and to arrange the
> methods of purveying goods and services to decrease the amount of
> labor needed. In fact, we have an example available for what the
> lack of cheap immigrant labor will do to an industry. [12]The
> Australian wine industry is more automated than the American wine
> industry due to lack of cheap immigrant labor in Australia. Ben
> Franklin was right. We'd advance more rapidly without simple minds
> available to do simple tasks cheaply.
> * That there are no external costs to cheap unskilled immigrant
> labor. And once again, wrong-o sleigh bell lovers. Low skilled
> laborers can not afford to pay for their own medical care. They
> don't pay enough in taxes to pay for the educations of their
> children. They do not make enough to pay for their retirements in
> the United States. The list goes on. Oh, and they commit crime at
> higher rates. So they cost crime victims and also the criminal
> justice system. A year for an inmate at Rikers Island in New York
> costs $47,000. Criminals are expensive for the rest of us in many
> ways.
>
> The Open Borders advocates are deeply dishonest. America's elites are
> corrupt. They lie. They can not be trusted. America is going down a
> very wrong path. Our leaders in business and politics are to blame.
> But so are apathetic members of the public. It is time to wake up and
> demand a stop to massive immigration. The costs have become far too
> high and will be with us for decades to come.
> By Randall Parker at 2005 August 14 06:44 PM [13]Immigration
> Economics | [14]TrackBack
> Comments
>
> in vermont too. many more latinos work in oregon than 10 years ago
> though, and i hear that similar things are going on in the south. i
> suspect that for a variety of reasons the upper midwest and new
> england (distance, climate, cost of living) will resist latino labor
> the longest.
> Posted by: [15]razib on August 14, 2005 08:55 PM
>
> Resistance is futile. Viva La Rasa.
> Posted by: [16]Mark on August 14, 2005 10:59 PM
>
> There would be a net savings from reversing the antimerit immigrant
> flow, some of which would be passed on to the consumers. If the bottom
> 20% gets paid so little that their wages could double without the rich
> even noticing it, shifting 4% of the total income away from the top
> 80% over several years, that is a worthwhile price to pay. There is no
> economic need to increase the size of the bottom end; it isn't about
> money, it's about power. How to get power, when there are no ideas;
> won't they use immigration to increase racial conflict, and say that
> officials must have more power?
> Posted by: [17]John S Bolton on August 14, 2005 11:26 PM
>
> For some reason my trackbacks to this post don't take, so ping!
> Posted by: [18]Dave Schuler on August 15, 2005 07:47 AM
>
> Eastern Washington, North Idaho, and Montana are alot like Wisconsin
> in that low end labor jobs are done primarly by whites. We have very
> few illegal aliens in this part of the country. This is good because
> we have much less of the "servant" culture that you see in California
> and other places. People clean their own homes and often do their own
> yard work. If you have someone else do these things, they are done by
> outside services operating more like independent business people
> rather than as "domestics". Not having the illegal immigrants means
> that we have a much more "do it yourself" mentality than, say, in
> Southern California.
>
> I do not like that "class" mentality that illegal immigration has
> produced in places like California and Texas. I think having distinct
> social classes, especially if they are of different races, is very
> destructive to the future of the U.S. The "open-borders" people need
> to be grilled over this issue.
> Posted by: [19]Kurt on August 15, 2005 10:01 AM
>
> razib - don't underestimate the number of mexicans in the upper
> midwest - chicago has the 2nd highest mexican population in the u.s.
> after l.a. granted this isn't wisconsin, but....
>
> randall - in a similar, practical manner that you approach alternative
> energy solutions, i.e. can't tell people to drive less or other
> inconveniences that would be a political non-starter in america today;
> what would be your political platform for immigration that would be
> politically feasible? i would love to know what you'd recommend,
> having put considerable thought to this issue, assuming something like
> you were an advisor to your senator. thanks.
> Posted by: [20]Jim on August 15, 2005 01:22 PM
>
> I spent a few days in Sierra Vista, AZ, a booming town about 15 miles
> north of the Mexican border. Strikingly, the maids in my motel were
> white, as were a lot of the other service workers. The answer to this
> paradox is that Sierra Vista is within the narrow band heavily policed
> by the Border Patrol. If illegal aliens are found there, they are
> deported. But if they make it far enough north to Tucson or Phoenix,
> well, they're Ollie Ollie Home Free.
> Posted by: [21]Steve Sailer on August 15, 2005 02:03 PM
>
> Jim,
>
> Perhaps I don't understand your question. Politically feasible? I
> think a candidate for the Presidency could run on a platform to deport
> all the illegals and win. The dollar cost to the government of
> deporting all the illegals would be pretty low.
>
> The anger about the immigrant deluge is building. But politicians are
> chasing the votes of Hispanics, the Democrats see them as a solid
> Democrat voting bloc (and they are), and some business interests want
> cheap labor.
>
> I'd tell a US Senator to submit a bill to fund a barrier along the
> entire length of the border. I'd also propose upping the number of
> Border Patrol by 20,000 and setting them loose in the interior with
> orders to round up all illegals. Congress should give instructions to
> DHS to resume interior enforcement.
> Posted by: [22]Randall Parker on August 15, 2005 03:33 PM
>
> References
>
> 9. http://nospeedbumps.com/
> 10. http://nospeedbumps.com/?p=334
> 11. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/bg1791.cfm
> 12. http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002778.html
> 13. http://www.parapundit.com/archives/cat_immigration_economics.html
> 14. http://www.futurepundit.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi?__mode=view&entry_id=2938
> 15. http://www.gnxp.com/
> 16. mailto:dfsf at hotmail.com
> 17. http://www.johnsbolton.net/
> 18. http://www.theglitteringeye.com/
> 19. mailto:kurt2100kimo at yahoo.com.tw
> 20. mailto:knuckleballnews at yahoo.com
> 21. http://www.iSteve.com/
> 22. http://futurepundit.com/
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